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Well guys im selling a macbook pro ive had for 12 years

It can play most Mac OSX PPC and Intel games on this website with almost no lag and is a Late 2008 Macbook Pro Unibody with 4GB RAM and a 250GB HDD Comes with a Magsafe Charger its on eBay here is the link in case anybody's interested https://www.ebay.com/itm/143635883919

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Does the present day MacOS still look like this? The GUI of nasty Windoze went from 256 color 2d, to 65k color 3d to Aero over-the-top translucent 3d and then all the way back to 256 faded color 2d. I don't even want to understand the "reasoning" behind that full circle turn around, but I hope at least MacOS didn't burry all its eye candy, too. I for one think eye candy is ... sweeet. Laughing out loud

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it actually went ahead and got a flat look with OSX 10.10 Yosemite which is why i never upgraded and the reason why im selling this is to get a actual computer with classic support possibly a powermac g3 or g4 g5 is too expensive

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What's up with this "flatness craze"?? The graphic cards are more powerful (and costly) than ever, yet everyone seems to insist on that "one simplified look" from Smartwatch and Smartphone to Tablet and PC. Why should I spend thousands of $ on a high end machine, if it looks just the same as my 180 dollar tablet?
That extra Firewire port or sound channel won't make a difference, if my eyes get so bored that I fall asleep in front of the screen.

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The actual design reason is so that it's obvious when you're using an OS control on the screen, and those get out of the way when you don't need them, giving you more screen real estate to focus on the content instead of the delivery system.

In practice though, Apple proved that the delivery system is a big part of the content. And replacing the skeumorphic HIGs with the Material HIG resulted in a lot of stuff taking more work/time to accomplish, with more confusing interfaces that are less pretty to look at while you're trying to figure out how to do something in THIS context....

I'd love to see a modern OS that properly conforms to Apples original human interface guidelines.

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I don't know about MacOS but Win10 *definetely* does not offer more "screen real estate" with its big ass tiles getting in the way. There are no more "nifty little apps", for everything is tiled these days. And the resolution for game apps from the Microsoft store is just LOUSY - outright shameful in 2020. Sad

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Would be tempted if the MBP wasn´t located in the US.
My wife would kill me if I bought another old computer, though. Wink
Is this the one? https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-2-...
You will know that you could run Mojave or Catalina on it with the Dosdude Patcher.
How many battery cycles do you read under System Inormation/Hardware/Power?
With 8GB RAM and a SSD such an MBP would be a keeper for me for sure.

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woah... it only has 117 cycles (): and yes it is that model if i can remember correctly...

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hold on now that im seeing this it is a 2.4Ghz model however i did upgrade the GPU's just last year with soldering and what not

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There i even lowered the price for a week or so so that way if anybody wants it they can get it cheaper Wink

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A good offer, methinks. Too bad shipping and customs would spoil everything for me, living in Germany.
Your black GMA950 MacBook should run 10.4.6 with Classic.
I had a similar (T2400, 3GB RAM) Hackintosh running Tiger, but the mainboard died recently.

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I thought that only PPC macs could run Classic and its a 2007 macbook and yeah shippings pretty hard in the us too especially with all the George floyd protests and the fact that ANTIFA is burning down half of the businesses including a vintage computer store that was in my city Detroit MIchigan

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i did try catalina patcher on it and it is fast even with a 5400RPM HDD

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i thought that classic runs only on PPC besides a powermac would be the perfect retro machine for me

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Sure, my bad. Classic will only work with a real PowerPC cpu.
Many games can be run via QemuPPC or SheepShaver, but games for G3 are hit and miss.
Mostly miss. Smile

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What was the best 68k MacOS Laptop ever built? One of these days I'd love to get myself some physical Maciness to play with.

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There we several fast 68k '040 chip Powerbooks released right before PPC came out. The first generation of '040 Powerbooks included the Powerbook 540c, with a gorgeous 9.5-inch active-matrix display with 640x480 resolution. It also featured a much easier to use trackpad.

That same year, Apple also introduced the last and fastest 68k Duo, the 280c. It featured a smaller active-matrix display with a max internal resolution of 640x480 8-bit, but only 640x400 w/16-bit color and it also used the older ball mouse. The Powerbook 2300c used the same model design.

This Duo also has a couple of additional perks, the first being that it's the smallest and lightest of all the other Powerbooks and it can gain additional processing power from the PowerBook DuoDock II, which adds an FPU to this tiny and powerful 68k Powerbook.

Both of these models originally ran System 7.1.1, part of the System 7 Pro series.

The following year, the last two 68k Powerbooks came out: the Powerbook 190cs and in Japan, the Powerbook 550c. The Powerbook 190cs was the very last 68k Powerbook Apple introduced, and it's model design was what Apple used for the Powerbook 5300c.

The Powerbook 550c was the only Powerbook to sport a full '040 processor w/floating point-unit, something most Powerbooks did not possess to keep build costs down. While some tasks do require a floating processor chip, most programs don't really use it, so it really depends what you want to run as to whether the FPU will be of much value.

I skipped through all the non-color versions, which are pretty much identical except for having greyscale displays. They are all able to run external displays in color.

Has this whetted your 68k appetite a little more now? Wink

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Sure thing if theres one under $130 dollars on ebay

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Thx, a 280c it shall be.

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I'd go a little later. The 280c had a SCSI hard laptop drive. Those are all dead or dying. Replacements are almost impossible to find, especially at a reasonable price and capacities are tiny. Subsequent Duos went IDE. Pick one of those, unless money is no object and you are happy to shell out $100 on an SD to SCSI adapter board.

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I just want to get the most 68k bang for my buck. As a young buck I started on a TMS9900, then skipped the 6510 craze (no C64 ever touched my desk) and went straight to Motorola's 68000 CPU (Amiga4ever!). I stayed with that till the 68040 came out and had saved my money for the 68060 upgrade - when the PPC betrayal happened Shock

Now I am getting my 2nd wind and vengeance shall be sweet. Laughing out loud

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Well i sold it and got $193 so yes i can afford a 68k mac

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The real heartache (financially) with having a 68k Mac is the affordability of reliable media, my friend. So long-term, you'll may need to invest in a SCSI adapter that gives you access to newer storage options like the SCSI-to-SD solution Troy mentioned and/or something along those lines. A Zip drive and maybe CD-ROM could also help you do some of the lifting, especially when disks themselves are not (relatively) too pricey; your only worry there would be disk reliability (I'd just backup more disks, along with other network-based backup methods, i.e., http and ftp stuff, etc.).

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well what would be a price you could afford im sure i could lower it

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this is what i would like to afford https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-15-2-PowerBook-G4-Titanium-M5884-400MHz-P...

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Ah no, that's PPC - you may tempt me as much as you like, but I won't be unfaithful to my never ending love of 68k!

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scratch that heres an even better price for a more capable machine https://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerBook-G4-DVI-Titanium-USED-Works-wonderfull...

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im gonna lower it to $110 just for you because you live far away and thats all i need for a powerbook G4

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maybe $119 because i cant get eBay to accept $110

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the thing is whats a cheap and reasonable way to transfer files from a early 2011 macbook pro running mavericks to a powerbook 520c

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Hey m68k im looking at a 520c how would i get files across under 20 dollars

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also do you think you could buy my macbook so that i have the money to do this and maybe you could sell it for more and get yourself one??? beacuse its gone up in price and i need to be able to transfer large files across as well as get a M1893 ac adapter for this whch both options are pretty expensive

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That's the issue with classics; they go up so much they end up costing more than relatively more modern tech like Macbooks.

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Well guys i am not getting a 68K But am getting a PowerMac G4 for only $187 too with the original disks with macos 8.6 on them its the 500Mhz model anybody know a graphics card upgrade that will work with this machine

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Depends upon the model. A Yikes had only PCI slots. If yours is a later one with AGP, the best OS9 card would be the GeForce Ti 4600. $187 sounds like a lot for a G4 tower, even today.

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what would i do to get files across on a powerbook 165???