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Toast Files--Can be burned to CD on a Win 10 PC?

Hello! I do have a powermac with a new CDR drive on the way and toast 4 and 5 on it; but i was wondering...Is it possible to burn these toast files to a CD on a modern windows 10 PC?

Figure it might be easier and save some wear and tear on my old machine.

If so what programs do you guys use to burn CD images of the bigger old mac CD-ROM games?

Thanks in advance!

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Thanks to IMGBurn, we can burn perfect copies of CD/DVD image files in Windows.
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/imgburn-250
You may have to rename .toast to .iso, to have the image file recognised. As far as I can tell, no damage was done by renaming.

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Oh shoot, I downloaded the standard ImgBurn install from their website to burn my OS 9 CD! Shock I declined their two add-ons and figured nothing extra was added to my Win 10 machine. Did I screw up my system now?

I could check things with Malwarebytes.. oh man, I really should've known better! I may run Zemana, Hitman Pro, AdwCleaner, TSA Ad Remover, stuff like this brings back bad memories of so many Windows nasties!

Sigh.. it's no wonder I love my old Mac software and systems—and now my Chrome OS Smile

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As long as you succeeded in declining the extra rubbish and weren't tricked into accepting them, you should be fine. No adware on my end, and I didn't have to follow the overly-complicated steps from that page, either. Been over a decade that way.

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Thank goodness! Laughing out loud I have installed the bare minimum on that system. I've been burned badly too many times in the past with junk like that before!

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When downloading ImgBurn, pick any of the mirrors. Only the copy hosted by imgburn has bundled adware. The mirror sites wouldn't allow it.

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Thanks! This is really helpful; i love toasting CD's on my mac, but this is a great alternative for a variety of reasons. Appreciate the point in the right direction.

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I used to use ImgBurn all the time back in my daily Windows days. I burned a lot of CD/DVD backups of my software, CD music, films, digital movies and photos, etc. with it and it made things very easy no matter whether the backups were for Mac, PC or my store-bought media. For the latter, I remember needing additional decryption, but as far as the burning part, this was always my definite go-to.

That's why I didn't consider any adware issues when I installed it earlier this week Sad

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Gotta be honest, I didn't think it was possible. Thought Toast was a Mac-only application.

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Okay have had great luck with Toast images; just change them to ISO and they burn great!

Next question; what about bin-cue pairs? Is there a best practice for converting these to be burned in ImgBurn?

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Does Bin/Cue really need to be converted? I think ImgBurn could handle these, if not then Nero or Alcohol 120% could do it.

I know that PowerISO can also convert between formats, such as bin/cue to iso

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So if i'm attempting to burn a Bin/cue file, do i just change it to ISO like i would with Toast?

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No. Imgburn is how you create bin/cue files of Mac CDs.
It's a native format for Imgburn.
So all you should have to do is open/select the cue file in Imgburn.

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Thanks! This seems to confirm it:

"Quake II for Macintosh — the original CD from 1999. Full install-set complete with audio soundtrack. - Imaged as .BIN/.CUE (required for mixed data/audio recordings). Good results for burning back to CD are with ImgBurn or Alcohol on Windows, although you may be able to use Toast on Macintosh, or Nero, etc., on Windows OS's."

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->although you may be able to use Toast<---

Yes, you can burn CDs from bin/cues using Toast in most cases; only rarely does it not do it right, but it is easy to check the resultant CD. In the reverse direction, Toast cannot make standard usable bin/cues from a CD...ImgBurn is definitely the tool of choice for that.

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Is there a minimum Toast version number for good burns of bin+cue ?

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I've used 5.2.3 without issue.

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Is there a program that will let you unpack .sit files on a Windows 10 machine? Finding it cumbersome to download a toast image sit, unpack it on my mac, then transfer it back to my pc to burn the ISO. Just too slow on mac and have been having more errors, problems with toast than with IMGBurn.

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If you do not mind using the terminal in Windows, there is a version called unar.
Did not try myself, as I did not find it too hard moving files around with Hackintosh. Wink
https://web.archive.org/web/20191025234856/https://cdn.theunarchiver.com...

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I use unar for Windows, which is a command-line version of the Unarchiver for Mac.

It's easier to work with if you set it up for use via Windows PATH.

If what you are unarchiving with unar is a .toast CD, you can command it to extract the data fork only, as you only need that part for ImgBurn. For example:

unar -k skip "some-cd-name-toast.sit"

This would extract the .toast file (and any other file included in the archive) to the same directory as the archive, minus the resource forks, if any.

Note: Quote-marks around an archive's name are used in all of unar's commands.

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Of course, there's always the free StuffIt Expander for Windows, if a command-line isn't your thing.

I don't know if it still supports ".sit" (mentions "sitx" on the page but not .sit). I don't use it myself so can't recommend it, only that it may be useable.

[Edit] that page also mentions SIT5 compatibility, which I assume is ".sit"

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Thanks! I'll give Stuffit Expander a try and report back Smile

EDIT: That stuffit program works! HUGE help as it's much faster thank doing on my old machine Smile

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Last question guys, and sorry to be a pain.

Can you also convert a DMG to and ISO simply by renaming it?

Or do you need a program to convert the file like Poweriso (as their website/tutorial claims)

https://www.poweriso.com/tutorials/convert-dmg-to-iso.htm

Thanks!

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Can you also convert a DMG to and ISO simply by renaming it?

Some, but as a rule, usually no.

Most .dmg files have had compression used in creating the .dmg file. - Iso's are uncompressed images.

I use the free "dmg2img" app. It used to be called dmg2iso but the name got changed along the way.

It's a Windows command-line app and easy to use, if you don't mind command-line apps...

Syntax: dmg2img  -i  filename.dmg  -o  filename.iso

[Edit:] But if you really prefer to avoid the command-line, you can DL the earlier dmg2iso app containing an easy to use GUI front-end for it, called "DMG2ISO Shell" - from E-Maculation's page for it (listed under "Easy Usage" in page).

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---->Can you also convert a DMG to and ISO simply by renaming it?<----

To make it an ISO I do one of two things 1) Use Disk Utility to convert the DMG to a DVD/CD master (a .cdr file) and then change the .cdr suffix to .iso if I want a Windows system to recognise it; or 2) drag the DMG to an open Toast image window and save as a Toast image...then change the .toast suffix to .iso if I want a Windows system to recognise it.

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Thanks guys; really appreciate the info!