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[Request] System 7.1 Performa bundles on Disk Images

Here are some of the Performa bundles that I'd like to talk to you about.

Macintosh Perfoma 400

System Software v7.01P/7.1P
At Ease v1.0
ClarisWorks v1.0 or GreatWorks
Reader Rabbit
Prodigy
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? Deluxe Edition
Quicken

Macintosh Performa 600 & 600CD

System Software v7.1P
At Ease v1.1
ClarisWorks v1.0 or GreatWorks
Reader Rabbit
Prodigy
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? Deluxe Edition
Quicken

Macintosh Performa 405/430/450

System Software 7.1P2
At Ease v1.1
ClarisWorks for the Performa or WordPerfect Works v1.2
Global Village TelePort/Bronze Modem
CheckFree
Apple Special Edition of America Online v2.0
American Heritage Dictionary
Scrabble Deluxe Color
Spectre Challenger
NOW TouchBase Pro
NOW DateBook Pro
BestBooks
Correct Grammar
Best of ClickArt

Macintosh Performa 410/460/466

System Software v7.1P3
At Ease v2.0
ClarisWorks v2.0
American Heritage Dictionary
America Online Performa v2.0
Mario Teaches Typing
Quicken v4.0
Spectre Challenger
Super Munchers
Global Village TelePort/Bronze Modem
Best of ClickArt

Macintosh Performa 475

System Software v7.1P3
At Ease v2.0
ClarisWorks v2.0
American Heritage Dictionary
America Online Performa v2.0
Mario Teaches Typing
Quicken v4.0
Spectre Challenger
Super Munchers
Global Village TelePort/Bronze Modem
Best of ClickArt
(MULTIMEDIA UPGRADE CD-ROMs)
Apple Multimedia Starter CD
New Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia
Choice of 3 CD-ROMs

Macintosh Performa 476

System Software v7.1P3
At Ease v2.0
ClarisWorks v2.0
American Heritage Dictionary
America Online Performa v2.0
Mario Teaches Typing
Quicken v4.0
Spectre Challenger
Super Munchers
Global Village TelePort/Bronze Modem
Best of ClickArt
Apple Font Pack
DataViz MacLinkPlus Translators
(MULTIMEDIA UPGRADE CD-ROMs)
Apple Multimedia Starter CD
New Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia
Choice of 3 CD-ROMs

Macintosh Performa 550

System Software v7.1P3
At Ease v2.0
ClarisWorks v2.0
American Heritage Dictionary
America Online Performa v2.0
Mario Teaches Typing
Quicken v4.0
Spectre Challenger
Super Munchers
Global Village TelePort/Bronze Modem
Best of ClickArt
(CD-ROMs)
New Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia
Time Almanac
Wacky Jacks
Microsoft Dinosaurs

Macintosh Performa 560

System Software v7.1P5
At Ease v2.0
ClarisWorks v2.0
American Heritage Dictionary
America Online Performa v2.0
Mario Teaches Typing
Quicken v4.0
Spectre Challenger
Super Munchers
Global Village TelePort/Bronze Modem
Best of ClickArt
(CD-ROMs)
New Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia
Time Almanac
Wacky Jacks
Microsoft Dinosaurs

Macintosh Performa 575

System Software v7.1P6
At Ease v2.0
ClarisWorks v2.1
American Heritage Dictionary
America Online v2.1
Mario Teaches Typing
Quicken v4.0
Spectre Challenger
Super Munchers
Global Village TelePort/Bronze Modem
Best of ClickArt
(CD-ROMs)
New Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia
Time Almanac
Wacky Jacks
Microsoft Dinosaurs

If any of you have old Performas with System 7.1P through 7.1P6, you can use Apple Backup to back up the Performa bundles and if so, I'd like to see disk images of the entire system backup disks with Performa bundles!

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Just reply to this thread or send me a PM if any of you make disk images of Performa 7.1 system software with any Performa Bundle!

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Has anyone got a copy of System Software v7.1P3 with a Performa restore? It still seems to be absent from the Garden.

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I enthusiastically second (or third?) this request for Performa bundles.

As far as I know Apple never provided any kind of factory restore disc or disks for these machines. All I know about are the "Apple Backup" and "Apple Restore" programs for do-it-yourself system restore floppies. I think it's really tragic that Apple chose not to provide factory restore disks like this since it really prevents us from restoring units to a true factory state. They required the consumer to create them up front which I think basically no one did and I think some history has been lost here as a result.

I personally had a Performa 475 and later a PowerBook 150 which we both preloaded with all kinds of goodies but neither had any accompanying software disk (beyond Disk Tools). Eventually we realized we should run the Apple Backup program on the hard drive to make our own restore floppies but by the time we did that we had been using the system for a while so it was far from a factory image. I was smarter when I got the PowerBook since I did it immediately and so really had something very close (as close as possible) to a factory restore. I ended up losing or discarding the disk sets for both machines long ago and I keep kicking myself for it (especially the pristine PowerBook ones) since I'd love to be able to restore them to a real or emulated Mac.

So, yes, if anyone has disks or discs with the factory bundles for any of these machines please upload them!

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Bumping this one. Despite the fact that so many Performas came pre-loaded with 7.1P3, it continues to be elusive as it appears everyone never made/kept the backups and just updated to 7.5.3 when it came out.
[edit] another year... another bump. It feels unreal that I've been looking for this for over a decade now. With every passing day, it's becoming less and less likely that someone still has these original configurations available for archiving.

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Should this IA saved disk image be of any use? Title page say

Performa 636CD. Macintosh Performa CD. Includes system software and other programs. SSW v7.1.2P. Disc v1.0 (CD)

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That's SSW 7.1.2P -- the missing ones are 7.1P1 and 7.1P3. These didn't come on CD; the only way you got them was by following the prompts when the Performa first turned on. The prompts said that your computer came with no recovery media, and you should immediately make a backup using floppy disks and the Apple Backup utility found on the computer.

Apple later replaced all the 7.1P through 7.1P6 SSW installs with a 7.5.3 install that came on CD.

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Ow, I now see the complex 'rar-ness' of the existence of such (eh) 'dump'.

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Well... I just figured out how we got the "clean" copies that we have...
The ADC CDs have copies of 7.0.1P, 7.1P, 7.1P2, 7.1P5, 7.1P6 and 7.1.2P.
They don't appear to have copies of 7.1P1, 7.1P3 or 7.1P4.
I was able to get a copy of the Utilities floppy for 7.1P4, but unless someone comes forward who actually made a backup of their new 7.1P1 or 7.1P3 system, I'm afraid these may be lost to history, as Apple never made them available in any of their distributions.

System 7.0.1P and 7.1P first show up on the November 1992 ADC CD.
The 1993 May CD has enablers for Performas that would run 7.1P1, but no system images.
The 1993 July CD has 7.1P2.
October 1993 still has 7.1P2, and November has nothing; December has 7.1P5.
June 1994 has 7.1P6, despite March onward saying there's no more Performa software until July.
July 1994 doesn't have any Performa software, and instead has 7.1.1 (Pro) and 7.1.2 (PPC).
October 1994 Has the 7.5 GM, at which point all Performa machines moved back to the main trunk.

Maybe someone's got access to the original images Apple used to clone the drives in the factory?

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The only thing, and it would be in the category of a long-shot, "Hail Mary pass" I can think of is to spread the search for these elusive images to academia globally.

Apple, while it had localized versions of all of these Mac system versions, shipped many 68k and early Power Macs with either standard or international English versions. Resellers preferred them as well since I believe that they were priced slightly lower if specced as US or International English. The Mac resellers may not have any backups, or even be around any more, but their clients, which included many American and European schools, may have some retired professors that may still have made these precious backups, if they haven't done any major Mac spring cleaning. I imagine they may still have their Macs operational, or passed them down to their kids, who may have kept their early Macs for nostalgia sake.

So the target would be the people that you (or people you know who know people) know from the academic world who are tech hoarders who still have their Mac floppies, hard drives, Zip, Jazz, Optical and hard drive backups, maybe even in the cloud. Again, it's just another avenue to try since it seems that particular resource has truly run dry everywhere else.

Boredom due to the crisis that's been keeping folks in a lot more has given a lot of elderly folks a whole lot more time and less to do, and who knows? Maybe they may even want to tinker with their grandaddy Macs again Laughing out loud

The holy grail: A retired, or almost retired, Mac system admin from that period who made optical and hard drive backups of these Performa System 7 versions and who has not dumped all of it out due to obsolescence.

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Yes, I think you're on the right path here. Performas went into two sales channels: Box Store Retail (Best Buy) to compete with Compaq, and the educational market. I don't believe Apple ever made them available outside the US, and since the Performas didn't come with restore floppies, the software itself wouldn't be shared by default.

So the place we'd likely find this stuff is on old Zip disk backups and floppy backups of educational systems -- I CAN imagine a district computer administrator from that era imaging the drives of the Performas they received so that they could restore to default state after being exposed to school kids and teachers for a term.

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Apple Americas, even if unofficially using resellers, I believe they may have actually.

I remember of an American school South of the US that the reseller offered a Color Classic ClarisWorks StyleWriter bundle with US Apple software that featured ClarisWorks and some additional software. Although it's fair to point out that these bundles were offered to the faculty and their families, so it wasn't a purchase made by the school, but still Wink

And yes, imaging's something sysadmins tend to do Laughing out loud

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I actually got that exact bundle through the Apple Education reseller channel in 1993 Laughing out loud Well, almost... I got the Colour Classic ClarisWorks StyleWriter II bundle with US Apple software.

But what I'd be looking for in this case is the equivalent Performa package, as the CC came with System 7.1, but the Performa 250 came with System 7.1P (included At Ease, Launcher), bundled third party software (ClarisWorks, Quicken, AOL, Mario Typing, etc), and no floppy disks.

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Similar software here are the "Market Software Series" We have vols 2 & 3 which carry some of the Performa install sets. Sadly not the ones that you wish for. Also sad is that we don't have vol 1, which does include other missing Performa sets.

And, I thought that I may have struck it lucky the other day when I came across this "Early Mac Systems" CD image on the Web Archive. It claimed to include software for the "Performa 475", but it turned out to be only the Disk Tools floppy image for this model. Which incidentally, had System Files for v7.1P4 - not v7.1P3 as mentioned up in the 1st post of this topic.

All in all, tho', somewhat disappointing.

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Yeah; that "Early Mac Systems" is where I found the 7.1P4 utilities disk that we've got on here now. Good to document where these are found though, as I've now done multiple rounds through all my sources searching for hints of 7.1P1 and 7.1P3. Best to know where they aren't Smile

I'm still unsure of whether 7.1P1 and 7.1P are the same or different; I'm beginning to suspect that they're the same OS, just listed differently in different places.

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I've got an image of volume 1 of the Market Software Series. It was imaged with an open session 1, so won't read/mount on anything but Toast. So I'm re-imaging using Disk Utility to create a CDR style image of the embedded filesystem as Toast doesn't want to fix it.

Are you interested in either of these? Volume 1 appears to have no Performa sets, but has the restore scripts/files for all the Macs that came with 7.1 bundled, including the Workstation series.

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Yes please and thank you

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Yes, and thanks. Vol 1 is missing from that page so it would be great to have there. Shame it didn't have the elusive Performa set.

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Which version do you want, the toast image with the open session, or the cdr image that's just the file system (and so mounts as writeable)?

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tell you what, post both if you can and it's no trouble with bandwidth...I'm certain some talented folks on this board can help patch up whatever is uploaded into usable form. I'm willing to help if I can.

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Well that's a pain... I was just about finished getting things ready for upload, and I realized it was a copy of the same disc that's on here as the September 1994 restore CD, not the March one. So we're back to searching for the March 1994 CD (or the equivalent Developer's CD).

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Yes the September disk (which did have some issues) was fixed and replaced some time back Wink

Bummer! We still need that missing March 1994 vol 1 disk which I believe carries Performa install sets, not included in with the other 2 volumes of the Market Software bundles on that page.

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Actually, I think that may have been the one, Adespoton Laughing out loud

It did come with the StyleWriter II and the year was definitely '93, so you know that one and yes they didn't come with floppies, the bundles were just preinstalled in the Color Classics!