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2019, May 27 - 8:14pm

starfiretbt

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When I was a kid in the 90's I played a lot of old mac games. Today I would love to play those old games again however I am really bad at games. When I was a kid I didn't have many so I could afford the time to "git gud" at the game but now there are so many games to play I would like to play many of them without having to spend months mastering one.

In nintendo and super nintendo emulation there are features that allow even a lousy player to make it through a game without losing thanks to save states, and while some old mac games allow you to save often negating this need others don't. Is there a feature in mac emulation or a program that allows save states to be made because I would love to beat a game sooner so I can play more. I currently use Basilisk II.

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2019, May 27 - 11:45pm

MikeTomTom

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I don't believe there is any Macintosh emulator that employs a save state switch. I could be wrong as I'm only familiar with the main three (Basilisk II, Mini vMac and SheepShaver), but there's none that I know of.

2019, May 30 - 11:29pm

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starfiretbt

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Are there computer programs that allow for save states in a program to be made? I don't think old mac games take up too much data.

2019, June 3 - 12:16am

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MikeTomTom

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It doesn't look like anyone has an answer to this, myself included, sorry.

What's the problem game[s] name? Is it here on the MG?

2019, June 3 - 1:37am

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There are a number of games, one I loved was Escaped Velocity. It's a space trading game but one feature is that you can conquer planets by fighting off waves of ships. Unfortunately some planets have so many ships that it could take days of constant game play before you finally win. Even as a over zealous kid who spent years playing that game I never was able to conquer some worlds because I would end up spending hours playing only to eventually lose.

Also this site doesn't have that game because the company that owns it's rights is in a weird legal status right now, bit it's one of those games I might actually spend money on because of nostalgia.

2019, June 3 - 2:17am

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MikeTomTom

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...Escaped Velocity ... this site doesn't have that game

Perhaps you were looking under "Escaped"?

See: Escape Velocity, Escape Velocity Nova & Escape Velocity Override

Going by the EV "Read Me" docs, it looks like it will auto save if you land on a planet. Plus if you choose not to play by the "strict rules" if you get killed you can resume the game from the last planet you visited by clicking the Open Pilot button.

2019, June 5 - 9:00pm

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starfiretbt

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Yeah if you land on a planet, but if you are in the middle of trying to take that planet and you spend hours fighting it only to die before you conquer and save you lose all the work you put into it.

Another game I wish had a better save feature was an asteroid game called Asterax where you mine asteroids for money and spend it on power ups, I always died before I got everything, even as a kid who had all the time to spend mastering the game.

2019, June 14 - 11:14pm

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RubyC42

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HA! I remember Asterax! You're right, it's hard to get everything in the game, but you can get a pertty good start if you get the anti-thrusters and safety powerup, and use insurance to keep those should you lose your life (IIRC it costs at most 2 per round)

Incidentally, I happen to have a video of it recorded some time ago, maybe i should consider publishing it on my 'tube~

Back to the topic of save states. I am not sure it's actually possible to save state the entire OS - remember the currently available emus emulate the entire OS, not just the program itself like DOSBox, which means a LOT more stuff to save - without a lot of technical hurdles to solve.