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2020, August 3 - 7:35pm

starfiretbt

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Looking for some games

I am looking for a few games.

1. The first game I thought was "sky shadow" as that game looked like it. It was a side scrolling shooter in black and white where you can shoot to the right or bomb strait down (not bomb down and to the left like in "sky shadow"), I remember it was very detailed despite being in black and white and unlike in "sky shadow" when you shoot something it blows up (not just giving you points). So whole cities, cliffs, towers, most things on the landscape can be blown to pieces giving the satisfaction of accomplishing something. Does this ring a bell for anybody?

2. I don't think the second is a game, it was a tutorial for using the mouse and it was in black and white. There was a guide who was a scuba diver and he showed the user how to use the mouse while he guided you underwater. It wasn't very interesting but I do want to remember my childhood by experiencing it again.

3. Another little something from my childhood and a default program was a game under the apple icon that I remember being a type of puzzle that you access using the apple menu. The normal BasiliskII setup has a jigsaw puzzle game with the map of the world but I could have sworn when I was young there was one of those puzzles where you move 8 pieces on a 3 by 3 square and try to arrange them in the correct order. Maybe I just have a false memory of the game, it wasn't very interesting I just want to remember it.

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2020, August 3 - 11:28pm

WhosIt.There

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The sliding puzzle desk accessory (called "Puzzle") in the Apple menu was a standard part of the install in various different classic MacOS versions. It was also available as a Dashboard widget in some versions of MacOS X.

There are a ton of sliding puzzle games around, most with a lot more functionality.

2020, August 5 - 9:24pm

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starfiretbt

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Yes, where do you find them? I have gone up to year 1994 in mac garden and haven't found them. It's not about playing a game like it (I'm sure there are great puzzle games that are very fun for people who like those games) it's about nostalgia. Some games I enjoy playing are only enjoyable because I played them as a child.

2020, August 5 - 11:30pm

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WhosIt.There

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It won't be on here separately since it's part of the standard OS install.

Either:

You would need to install the appropriate version of MacOS (Daxeria says below it's prior to System 7.5), which will depend on which emulator or real hardware you're using.
It's very easy for someone to extract, but may depend on which version of the MacOS you're using as to which version of Puzzle is required / wanted - early ones were black-and-white, later were colour and allowed pasted images.

2020, August 5 - 11:38pm

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I could be wrong on this, but I think Apple had the Puzzle desktop accessory as far back as System 6.x; I vaguely remember using the Font DA mover to move it off of some system floppy disks, along with keyboard layouts and larger sounds, to make a bit more room for fonts or other boot disk essentials.

It also went up to Mac OS 9.2.2. Two neat things I recall with the newer System 7 versions of the puzzle tool were that you could copy the color world map from the scrapbook and paste it into two other desktop accessories: one was the map DA (which by default displays a black-and-white version of the world map… I made sure to copy the black-and-white map to the scrapbook first for safe-keeping, lol) and the puzzle DA (as I remember, the world graphic was a fun and pretty easy puzzle image to solve).

This recollection does bring back a little nostalgia for me!

2020, August 6 - 12:16am

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WhosIt.There

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Puzzle itself come from the very earliest days of the Mac, even before the official 1984 release. It was originally written by Andy Hertzfeld in 1983, but came in updated over the years. Folklore.org: The Puzzle

The DAs themselves are easily transferrable - even easier in later MacOS versions where Font DA Mover is no longer needed.

The first assignment we had to do in a university computer science programming course was to create a copy of Puzzle on the then-new Mac computers using Lightspeed Pascal, with an optional bonus exercise of adding a self-solving mode. I've could even still have a printout of my source code (although my not be the final fully working version) somewhere in my box of stuff from "prehistoric times".

2020, August 6 - 2:16am

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Wow! What a fabulous story about the little guy I remember how cool it was in System 6, my first Mac OS, to fire up a bunch of cool mini-programs!

Among them was the nifty Flashwrite ][, which I much preferred to Apple's own notepad. I also wrote a comment on a few other favorites here, too!

2020, August 6 - 8:42am

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WhosIt.There

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Here's the Puzzle desk accessory from System 7.1 on different disk image file formats:

800K .img usable in Mini vMac, SheepShaver, Basilisk II
14K .dmg usable in MacOS X

It works in System 7.1 through to MacOS 9.2, as either a standalone app or you can have it in the Apple menu by putting it System Folder -> Apple Menu Items

2020, August 3 - 11:40pm

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Sky Shadow is here: https://macintoshgarden.org/games/sky-shadow

Update: I misunderstood your question. You’re looking for a game that is like Sky Shadow, but a little different.

2020, August 5 - 9:26pm

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Yes I downloaded "Sky Shadow" but it's not the game I was thinking of. I understand I may not be giving enough to go on, that's just what I can remember.

2020, August 5 - 10:53pm

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Daxeria

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There was a guide who was a scuba diver and he showed the user how to use the mouse while he guided you underwater.

Mouse Practice

The normal BasiliskII setup has a jigsaw puzzle game with the map of the world but I could have sworn when I was young there was one of those puzzles where you move 8 pieces on a 3 by 3 square and try to arrange them in the correct order.

The puzzle with the sliding tiles was included in the earliest versions of Mac OS, until being replaced by the jigsaw puzzle in Mac OS 7.5.

2020, August 5 - 11:11pm

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It was the Puzzle Desk Accessory. And you could paste any PICT you had in your clipboard onto it to replace the numbers with an image. In early System 7, there were some handy images in the default Scrapbook for this purpose.

2020, August 27 - 11:36pm

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starfiretbt

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Hey thanks everybody, I will give those things a try. I don't know how I missed "Mouse Practice" I thought I visited every page up to year 1994.
Now I wish I could remember what side scrolling game is like "Sky Shadow" where you can shoot right and strait down (not down and back like in "Sky Shadow"). I remember blowing up targets in that game both buildings, landscapes, and I think even trees. It was in black and white and very detailed.
I understand this is a vague description and it's not a lot to go on, but I'm just hoping.

2020, August 27 - 11:44pm

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MikeTomTom

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Delirium ?

[Edit] Oh, B&W... StarRunner ?

2020, August 27 - 11:56pm

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starfiretbt

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I will give it a try, it looks familiar and it is a left to right side scroller but I remember it being very detailed and in black and white. I was almost certain it was "Sky Shadow" except in that game you drop bombs backwards and you aren't able to destroy landscapes and targets. I seem to remember when you drop bombs they looked very much like bombs and went strait down, even moving with your ship.

Did I not play "Sky Shadow" long enough? I might be mixing two games together in my memory in the same way people think "Mr. Monopoly" has a monocle when he doesn't because of "Mr. Peanut".

2020, August 27 - 11:57pm

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I did play "StarRunner" but it wasn't that, it was very much like "Sky Shadow."

2020, August 28 - 12:01am

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starfiretbt

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I just started the puzzle. THAT IS THE PUZZLE! It was an "Apple" logo. That you guys. Also the mouse practice is what I was thinking of too.