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Latest guidance on making CD images?

I have seen the guide page at https://macintoshgarden.org/uploading-games-website describe using either Toast 8 Titanium (which is PPC OS X, it appears?) or Disk Utility (on "modern" OS X?) to image mixed mode CDs. Is this still the current procedure?

I've recently procured a copy of the Starcraft Battle Chest that doesn't require OS X, to use on my Quicksilver with 9.2.2 on it, and I'd like to image it and confirm if it's unique from both the original standalone release and the later, OS X Battle Chest release. Please advise as to the best way to go about imaging the disc (especially on OS 9, if possible) and to whether it would be worth uploading the resulting image. Thank you!

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I don't really agree that all the recommendations in the guide are the best. The guide mentions making bin/cues with Toast, but my experience with making bin/cue images with Toast is that they do not work properly. Anyway you do not need to make bin/cues unless you have audio tracks on the CD. On OS X, I always use Toast 7 to make images of hybrid Mac/PC CDs as well as Mac-only CDs. I have also made these images on OS 9 using Toast 5, but prefer to use Toast 7 in OS X on a faster Mac. Alternatively, you can always get reliable disc images (iso images of Mac-only CDs, Mac/PC hybrids or bin/cue images of mixed mode CDs with audio tracks) using ImgBurn under Windows. You don't need to image the CD on the system that it is intended to be used on.

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This is helpful, thank you.

To make sure I understand correctly, I can use Toast 5 on a classic machine or Toast 7 on an OS X machine to make an image of a hybrid Mac/PC CD (without audio tracks) and it should be suitable for upload here? Otherwise, I can use ImgBurn on a Windows computer, of which I have zero around the house, but that can be fixed.

Does that wiki page need to be updated with this information, then? I'll try to test this workflow this weekend on my systems here.

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---->To make sure I understand correctly<----

You understand correctly. With Toast, mount the CD, select Copy from the Toast screen, then File/Save as Disc Image. When you are done, quit Toast, then LOCK the disc image. Dragging the image to the Toast icon should confirm that the image is a hybrid or not. Also if you choose to mount the image in OS 9 it should mount both Mac and PC volumes, but be sure that the image is locked before you do this to prevent the Finder from writing to it and soiling your original image. Your pristine image would be suitable for uploading here.

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Install Virtual PC and use Imgburn.

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Or, install VirtualBox or VMWare Fusion (both free now), install Windows, and then install and use Imgburn.

Anyone know if someone's successfully got Imgburn running under Wineskin?

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I posted this imaging guide here long, long ago but along the way imageshack nerfed their service and the image links are now all dead. Hopefully, I described the steps clearly enough that the images aren't needed.

For OS X there are a number of disc imaging apps that are based on cdrdao which creates a bin/toc image for multi-track discs. This is similar to the more common bin/cue but iirc the bits are flipped in the audio tracks which is why you need a bin/toc compatible app to burn the images correctly.

My preference has always been to image on Windows as there's no danger of images getting modified and the most popular image formats are all supported there.