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This is a main page for Mac OS 9.x links, as this page is one of the "Popular content" in this site. Some links below are from the Integrated Download Page.

Mac OS 9.0

Retail Mac OS 9.0 CD image, works for any PowerPC Macintosh computers before 2000.

Mac OS 9.0.4

Retail Mac OS 9.0.4 CD image, works for any PowerPC Macintosh computers before 2000. It installs Mac OS 9.0 followed by the 9.0.4 Update

Mac OS 9.1

Retail Mac OS 9.1 CD image, works for any PowerPC Macintosh computers before 2001. Does not work on the SheepShaver emulator due to lack of MMU implementation.

Mac OS 9.2

This version only available to model-specific installers. Officially, all pre-G3 Macintosh computers are unsupported here but can be made to run 9.2.x using OS9 Helper.

Mac OS 9.2.1

Mac OS 9.2.1 is the update for Mac OS 9.1 or 9.2 users. It updates the Classic Environment in Mac OS X and updates most enhancements.

Mac OS 9.2.2

Mac OS 9.2.2 is the update for Mac OS 9.2.1 users. It updates the Classic Environment application compatibility in Mac OS X and updates most enhancements.

Custom Variants of Mac OS 9.2.2

Bootable Image for PowerMac MDD

This is a copy of Mac OS 9.2.2 for the PowerMac G4 MDD, by oakbog. It will only boot for PowerMac G4 MDD (FireWire 400 models only); should also work for other Mac OS 9 compatible G3 or G4 Mac models. Usable as Classic Mode for all PowerPC Macs running Mac OS X. The linked file is an OS X disk image named "OS9General.dmg", which was contained on the Software Restore CDs bundled with these systems. It includes "Applications (Mac OS 9)" and "System Folder". Unlike retail Mac OS 9 installers, this software is able to boot the PowerMac G4 MDD (FireWire 400 models) into OS 9 or can be used as Classic Mode on any PowerMac running Mac OS X v10.1-10.4. This System includes the "Mac OS ROM" file v9.6.1. Download via Macintosh Garden: Mac OS 9.2.2 for PowerMac G4 MDD To use this software to boot an MDD in OS 9, use Disk Utility in Mac OS X (10.1-10.4) to format a hard drive in Mac OS Extended format, and be sure to choose the option to include "Mac OS 9 Drivers". Once formatted mount the .dmg file and copy the System and Applications folders from the disk image to the hard drive. Restart your MDD via the Startup System Pref Pane or with the Option key held down, and select your Mac OS 9 drive as the Startup Disk. For more info, see The Vintage Mac Museum Blog: Reinstalling Mac OS 9 on a PowerMac G4 MDD
Architecture: PPC

9.0 runs fine on SheepShaver (and can be updated to 9.0.4) but 9.1, 9.2.1, and 9.2.2 won't. For G4 AGP install, it has a special build of Mac OS specifically designed for the G4 AGP Graphics and will not boot in other G4 models.

9.2.x cannot officially run on pre-G3 Macs without OS9 Helper.


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by Fortuna Wave - 2012, June 3 - 5:17pm

I have merged all pages associated with Mac OS 9.x with this one, resizing CD scans, and cleaned up discussions.

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by themacmeister - 2012, April 16 - 7:05am

I have the disc, but it is damaged... it still boots and installs OS922, but I cannot image the entire thing. I am afraid of posting a non-booting image, as it is fairly worthless. There are other retail OS92 discs elsewhere on here, I'm sure.


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by jonnyboy - 2012, April 15 - 2:26am

- download Wired Client (Macupdate)
- find Trackers in menu
- connect to Galaxy (think restore discs are in Hardware)

alternatively; max has them also (& the system discs); Galaxy has a faster download for guests

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by iBib - 2012, April 6 - 7:09pm

Does anyone know where I can get hold of a pair of these disks?

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by Steve_W - 2012, March 5 - 11:57pm

Hey MacMeister, any chance of a re-up??? 2 days of searching for these disks! Thanks a lot in advance!

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by Kjohnson - 2012, February 6 - 8:15pm

Thanks, I do have toast titanium, that should do. I'll start pulling out some of the older stuff and try to upload. I know that I have at least the resto disks for my first gen PowerBook G3, first gen PowerBook G4 and G5 DP2ghz. Also somewhere I have most of the Performa line disks, I can't see anyone upset at me giving away Performa and G3 stuff.

Any link to those elusive MDD files would be much appreciated.


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by bertyboy - 2012, February 6 - 7:02pm

Keith, give it two weeks and I'm sure that these will be up by then.

It's not hard to help ohters out by preserving these:

  1. I usually use Toast to image the original CD's
  2. But if the disc involves booting OSX, I use OSX's Disk Utility to create a Master CD/DVD image
  3. Compressing the disc images is optional, sometimes it saves just a few percent, which I find more of an inconvenience if everyone has to burn 20 minutes of CPU uncompressing it, and much longer on a slower Mac
  4. Plus Stuffit sometimes hoses the compression so that the file cannot be decompressed, iMac G4 restore discs were an example
  5. Then pick a file hosting site, mdeiafire is popular, sendspace too, I'll be trying Minus when I get my new broadband allowance at the end of the week.
  6. some may require you to segment the upload because of a maximum file size, Stuffit can do this without compression

Restore discs are always welcome, particularly pre-OSX, but now I think anything pre-Intel. I've been looking for a set for an iMac G4 (USB 2) for some time. Took me many years to find some for my DA G4. If you hadn't gathered, many here haved their saved searches on eBay or similar looking for old Macs.

I think it's just common sense that would determine if any material uploaded would be an issue with Apple. I think if you listed some of them, there would be a lot of requests. I'd certainly be after some install and restore media images, I'm always on the lookout for older Macs and no-one ever seems to keep the original media.

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by themacmeister - 2012, January 16 - 12:35pm

A very fine upload. I am downloading, and backing up these images, in case I find a MDD G4 to purchase (I used MDDs at the last "Mac" place I worked -- they were so incredible at the time).

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by bertyboy - 2012, January 16 - 9:03am

yeah, the first two eMacs were OS9.2.2 (all the others were OS X only) and they would require something like OSX 10.2.8 for the install, so OSX 10.3 may be good.
I don't think you'll be able to use the MDD Restore CDs, for the reasons you're seeing. Is this what you want ? Or is there something else you want of the Restore CDs ?

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by Pincrete - 2012, January 15 - 3:43pm

I bought an Emac 9.2.2 on ebay, it will boot my 1250 DP MDD (FW 400 of course), but it refuses to install, giving a 'cannot install on this model' message.

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by bertyboy - 2012, January 4 - 8:08pm

These aren't my original uploads (which were OSX 10.2.0 for the MDD and the associated restore CDs). Perhaps someone else can confirm.

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by OS923 - 2012, January 4 - 5:00pm

I can't expand the following files with StuffIt Expander 7.0.3:
MDD Restore CD 1.toast.sit
MDD Restore CD 3.toast.sit
MDD Restore CD 4.toast.sit
The CRC's that I calculated are:
MDD Restore CD 1.toast.sit 6fcce795
MDD Restore CD 3.toast.sit e30c8c07
MDD Restore CD 4.toast.sit 3197bc6a
Are they corrupt or do I need a higher version of StuffIt Expander?

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by Aurimas - 2011, September 15 - 9:45am

Thanks a lot for the uploaded PowerMac CDs, they saved me from a lot of trouble, greetings from Lithuania!

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by bertyboy - 2011, June 26 - 7:25pm

The supplied Install images above only work with the 2003 models

Typo, you mean "2002 models".

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by John Bohrer - 2011, June 26 - 3:09pm

Two types of MDD FW400
Note that there are two types of MDD FW 400 models. I have both the 2002 unit (two of them) and the later 2003 unit, all dual processor 1.25 GHz units. I bought the latest on Ebay for $58, so they are bargains.

The supplied Install images above only work with the 2003 models, but don't let that bother you. For the 2002 model, you can install 10.3, 10.4 or 10.5 (using the generic Black Install disks) into the MDD and then use the supplied Restore images above. The restore images above work with both types, no problem.

If you do a complete Restore and can't later select OS 9 as the boot, just redo the Restore and *only* select OS 9, not the complete restore. That fixes the problem.

Great website & great article!

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by Hatta - 2011, April 16 - 5:26pm

Will these work on a Quicksilver?

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by bertyboy - 2011, April 11 - 6:15pm

Yeah, it should be a FW400 model - the FW800 models only came in a single 1.0GHz, or dual 1.25GHz or dual 1.42GHz - but as suspected it is one of the "re-released" models from summer 2003 with the release of the PowerMac G5. Just complicate identifying which Mac it may be, the re-released 1.25GHz was also available as a dual 1.25GHz BTO.

So you're going to need the OS9 System Folder from a set of restore discs for a G4 of that era. You could try the sets linked to on this site, I think there are two sets available. Or you could just hunt (on this site - use Search at the top - for the "OS9 General.dmg", which is all the OS9 OS and software, as used on an MDD. It's only 300MB or so, just mount it and drag the contents to the partition you want to use as an OS9 startup disk.
There shouldn't be any issues using the Startup Manager in OS9 and OSX 10.5 to switch between the OS's - I used to do this with a dual 1GHz MDD.

Of course, there may be two possible issues:
One with the size of the boot disk partition - OS9 doesn't like booting of a volume larger than 200GB (about 192GB formatted), allegedly. I've seen it mentioned many times but I've never tried to disprove it. Creating a small 4GB - 190GB partition could get round this.
The second possible issue is that you need to have OS9 Drivers installed on the disk, you nay not have done this if you've clean installed OSX 10.5. You can check with OSX Disk Utility in Leopard. Open Disk Utility and select the DISK - not the formatted volume - and click the blue Info button at the top. "OS9 Drivers Installed" is somewhere in the info that pops up. Alas, I don't know of any way to install the OS9 drivers (which creates another partition I believe) without completely reformatting the drive. But someone else may know, and the Apple Discussions may be a good place to search for help on achieving this. Most of the time I read posts that repeat what I have said, but I remember reading some that made me think "Nah, that'll never work".

As for "blessing" an OS9 System Folder (if it needs it at all) while in OSX, you can do this with a few Terminal commands. GIYF, if you even need to use that, the biggest clue is in the word "bless" - Oh look, there's an OSX Terminal command called "bless" too.

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by SwedeBear - 2011, April 11 - 3:02pm

If it´s a MDD 1.25GHz Single Processor w FireWire 400 it will boot OS 9.2.2 If it´s FW 800 it will not. Copying a System Folder for a OS X.x is probably not a very good idea as the target disk for your copying needs to be prepared. About the booting; it's 'known that some of the later PPC:s could (be tricked into) booting from USB. Also a minimal system configuration; ie a very thin System Folder has been used in bootable units for a very long time. Examine the floppy image of the 'Tool Disk' for OS7 for example. Smile

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by lazarusnine - 2011, April 11 - 2:21pm

I have a quick question. Is it possible to dual boot a MDD PowerMac G4 (single processor 1.25 GHz) with OS 9.2.2 and Leopard? I'm not interested in running Classic, just dual booting. I tried to copy over a system folder to no avail. In fact, it was a pain to get Leopard to re-bless the OS X system folder. It wasn't loading up to either OS X or 9. I had to use a Tiger disc to access 'Startup Disc'. Interestingly, though...and this is very interesting...I had OS 9 on a USB stick, which is how I got the System Folder onto the Leopard G4 in the first place. If I left the stick installed, the Mac booted into OS 9 from the USB stick! I thought PPC Macs couldn't boot from USB let alone from a System Folder alone. Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. For reference, the Mac already has OS X Leopard pre-loaded and I would like to avoid reinstalling that OS. Thanks!

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by bertyboy - 2011, March 2 - 8:37am

Glad the thread helped.
Just have one question - why bother ?

  • A customised minimal OSX 10.2.x install takes up about 1.1GB - forget additional languages, forget all the printer drivers, forget all the optional apps
  • The OSX install, even if never sued, wlll get you out of trouble if something hoses your OS9 System Folder, ie. you install an incompatible extension - remember there are no OS9 booting CDs and the OSX booting CD only lets you run the installer or Disk Utility
  • If you really want to do this, boot into OS9 and remove all the OSX top level folders, that is everything EXCEPT "System Folder", "Applications (Mac OS 9)" and perhaps "Documents".
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by jakov jerkov - 2011, March 2 - 3:28am

Hi Fellas:
really informative thread, learned a lot from your comments so far. Let me ask you this: Say I had a MDD and say I really wanted it to run OS9.x only. I'd followed your instructions and successfully got an install using the restore disks and am booting beautifully into OS9 now. However, what I'd really like is to not have OSX on the drive at all (went the route of installing X first then using the 9 installer on the restore disks). Now I'm sure it wouldn't just be a matter of deleting the X-side system folders etc - but I'm damned if I can find anything on the web regarding this situation and you seem like you might know. Appreciate any feedback.

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by jrmwvu04 - 2010, September 15 - 7:23am

Actually that's not entirely the case. Somewhere on the garden here there was a copy of 9.2.2 that I used to install normally on the 2003 MDD. I think it was the 800Mhz eMac disc. It has a newer version of the rom than the one that is in the MDD restore discs. 10.1.1 I believe.

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by bertyboy - 2010, September 5 - 9:19am


the discussion involves 4 of us who oen MDDs (FW400).

The ONLY way to "install" OS9 on such an MDD is to use the restore CDs that came with it.
No retail version of OS9 will work, although it was reported on Apple Discussions that some can boot from a retail OS9.2.1 install CD, and even install the OS from that, but then you can't boot the MDD from the OS it just installed.

From OSX 10.2.0 onwards (for all Macs that came with it), OS9 (and other key packages - iMovie, iDVD, etc) could be installed by performing a partial restore, that is you would perform a Restore, and you would be presented with a page to choose the software you wanted to restore, it deaulted to "All" but you could select to just restore OS9. The point is that you had to boot into OSX from the Macs hard disk to run the Restore. Same for the MDD. There was no OS9 Install CD, imaged or physical.

If you selected to restore OS9, it would copy (ie. drag and drop) the contents of that "OS9 General.dmg" to the hard disk. That's why it is provided.

The Mac OS ROM (part of the OS9 System Folder) is also an important issue in deciding of the OS9 System Folder can boot the Mac. I provided an "OS9 General.dmg" here earlier, and as my MDD was one of the very first produced (I bought it first Saturday after it was announced in Aug 2002), it comes with Mac OS ROM v9.5.1 and minimum Mac OS 10.2.0. This was insufficient to boot MDD produced much later, which may have come with OSX 10.2.1 and Mac OS ROM 10.5.2, ie. The Mac OS ROM v9.5.1 in my OS9 System Folder was insufficent to boot a later MDD.

Should be no issue with copying Finder and most other parts of the OS9 System Folder to Macs that can run that OS. The only issue would be with the "Users & Groups Data File" in the OS9 System Folder Preferences. It should be trashed if you copy to another Mac. It contains the cache that holds the Mac's MAC address of it's network interface cards and computer name and the like. Causes untold issues on an OS9 AppleTalk network if you forget to trash it.

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by Lance666 - 2010, September 5 - 8:07am

Not sure about the statement "to get the Mac OS ROM version required to boot a MDD in Mac OS 9", since all MDDs will boot in OS 9. All you have to do is install. The only exception is the MDD FW800, and nothing can enable the FW800 to boot in OS 9.

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by Lance666 - 2010, September 5 - 8:10am

Not sure which of these files, if any, makes an install CD, but "Mac OS 9 MDD DMG" doesn't. It's just a collection of drag and drop files, so it won't make a proper installation (copied Finders lead to troubles). Maybe one needs "CD 1" through "CD-4", since it seems the "Install 1" and 2 are only for OS 10.2. I suppose the CD-1 thru 4 have a lot of additional software, because OS 9.2.2 will fit on one CD.

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by Bob Kiwi - 2010, August 31 - 4:24pm

Enjoy! The MDD is quite an awesome Mac OS 9 machine (if at times loud)

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by j_damage•69 - 2010, August 31 - 4:17pm

Its cool, OS9 is installed now. Took a split second lol.


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by Protocol 7 - 2010, August 31 - 4:03pm

If you know where you're going you can also use the "Go to folder" option in the Finder. Just type the path like /Volumes/Restore CD/.images/

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by j_damage•69 - 2010, August 31 - 3:49pm

Wow great stuff, very helpful! Found it right off the bat haha.

More classic gaming here I come Smile

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by Bob Kiwi - 2010, August 31 - 3:44pm

My apologies if it is corrupt. From now on I will make sure to run a CRC and post it.

If you have a tool like Tinkertool, you need to enable hidden files/folders in the Finder to find the .images folder where the DMG is hiding.

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by j_damage•69 - 2010, August 31 - 3:35pm

Ta very much, will try now! Hmm where the .images folder? I have downloaded all of the above CDs.

Thanks again.

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by Protocol 7 - 2010, August 31 - 3:12pm

If it is corrupt you can always pull it from the first restore CD. It's in the hidden ".images" folder. I know that copy is definitely good because I just used it recently.

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by j_damage•69 - 2010, August 31 - 1:40pm

Could someone please re-upload the Mac OS 9 MDD DMG? Its corrupt for some reason :/

Thanks in advance!

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by Bob Kiwi - 2010, August 24 - 3:42pm

These CDs are from a Dual 867, and I was able to get my Dual 1.25 to work from them.

Since it was a Dual 867, that means its from the original batch I believe. I have the Apple Hardware Test CD as well, will image that/check its version to see if it also goes with the earlier release.

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by ken147 - 2010, August 24 - 1:53pm

got 10.2 installed on my Sawtooth, runs great!!!!

All we need is 10.3 Wink

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by ccmac - 2010, August 12 - 1:51am

I just want to clarify. Even though I think that the eMac 9.2.2 Install CD is the best choice for a OS9 G4 user since it appears to be installable on most G4s, I still think that you should also download the machine specific install discs/OS9General.dmg so that you can set up the G4 as it came from the factory if desired.

Also, Bob Kiwi, what MDD model did this install set go with? Was it the original MDD model or the later MDD 2003 series?

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by Bob Kiwi - 2010, August 11 - 11:54pm

That's a really neat link. I recently signed up for 68kMLA as well, about the same time I started uploading things here (clearly I decided to stop lurking and be more of a contributor).

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by Protocol 7 - 2010, August 11 - 11:39pm

The eMac 9.2.2 was listed on that page I mentioned but was stored in one of sheepmyshaver123's mediafire accounts so that might be the one you got. And yep it really is the best option as it's bootable and installable!

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by ccmac - 2010, August 11 - 11:06pm

Protocol7, thanks for the additional upload. I agree that the dmg format can be a problem for OS9 users. I actually tried to convert Bob Kiwi's OS9General.dmg to OS9 img format using dropdmg but I kept getting an error message. It was then that I noticed that the mounted dmg was over 1gig in size so I figured that must have been the cause of the problem. I didn't try converting Protocol7's upload figuring I would have the same problem. In the end, I followed Protocol7's advice and downloaded the eMac 9.2.2 CD. This would be the best bet for a OS9 user. First, it is a true bootable 9.2.2 install CD (not a restore cd). Second, it is in iso format which means an OS9 user should be able to use Toast under OS9 to burn it. Also, according to a MDD owner on the lowendmac OS9 forum, it not only works on the MDD but all prior G4s as well. Protocol7 says you can find it at the Old Mac Archive, but I could not find it there. I did find it at the sheepmyshaver123 archive. I think there is another upload link to the same file in the emac 9.2.2 discussion in this forum.

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by Protocol 7 - 2010, August 11 - 10:15pm

I've collected the later ROMs as it's always handy to have them around. After 9.6.1 there was 9.7.1, 9.8.1, 10.1.1 and 10.2.1. There was a discussion about them on 68kmla (and now that I see it, ccmac was in on that too!)

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by Bob Kiwi - 2010, August 11 - 9:32pm

The restore CDs are not the easiest and fastest way to get up and running, especially if you don't have a Mac OS X install to use, but they are the official way you could say. If someone wanted to rip out the essentials to make a Mac OS 9 booting System Folder for a machine and upload it and edit it in, that's fine by me. I'm just happy to image whatever official media I have and share, and hopefully help out some retro enthusiasts Smile

Great discussion by the way, I never knew the ROM went above 9.6.1

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by Protocol 7 - 2010, August 11 - 9:22pm

Yep it's the same idea as the MDD one. It just contains the Applications and System Folder. You could burn it to a DVD in OS X (it's 1GB so won't fit on a CD) and copy the folders off.

A better method if you have a spare Mac with OS X installed is to attach the Mac you want to put OS9 onto in firewire target disk mode. Then mount the dmg and copy the files to the target drive.

The only way to make is Classic-friendly would be to make a DiskCopy image of it but I gathered that ccmac would manage fine with the dmg. The reason I didn't upload the whole restore cd is it doesn't give you an option of what gets restored so it would nag for disc 2 so it could install all the other (OS X) bundled software.

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by bertyboy - 2010, August 11 - 9:07pm

An important point, but I have a feeling, like the OS9.2.2 for the MDD, the iBook OS9.dmg is in the format it actually comes on the Restore CD. ie. it's not suitable for burnng to a physical CD, and even if you did burn it, you couldn't boot from it (while on the CD). Importantly, it requires you to boot into OSX from the hard disk and install the contents by drag and drop. Assuming it's like the MDD "OS9 General.dmg" ....

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by ccmac - 2010, August 10 - 3:58am

Yes, if possible, upload the entire iBook OS9 dmg.

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by Protocol 7 - 2010, August 10 - 2:38am

I can upload the OS9 dmg tomorrow if you need it. If it's just for the ROM I could upload that seperate. It can be added to any 9.2.2.

The eMac 800Mhz install CD has a 10.1.1 ROM in it's System Folder and installs a 10.2.1 one. As far as I know that's the highest Mac OS ROM version. You can find it here:

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by ccmac - 2010, August 9 - 10:59pm

Protocol 7,

It would be great if you would also upload the restore set for the iBook or at least the iBook's OS9 dmg with the Mac OS ROM 9.7.1 version.


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by bertyboy - 2010, August 8 - 10:03pm

Great upload.

I bought my MDD as soon as they were announced (as the last OS9 booting desktop Mac), so mine came with OSX 10.2.0 and Mac OS ROM 9.5.1. Both had already been linked to on this site, but these may be of more use for you, j_damage•69.

Sounds like you bought it - woohoo !! In OS9 it's seriously fast. And I mean poo-your-pants fast. You'll question why you use OSX.

Bob Kiwi is essentially right about the MDD not being able to boot from retail OS9.2.1 CDs, and although it's not strictly true, it doesn't help you even if you do. I'll explain - it's come up on Apple Discussions many times since the MDD was released. What we all discvered was that the early MDDs - like mine that boot of Ma OS ROM 9.5.1 in OS9 - CAN boot of the retail OS9.2.1 CD. It can even run the installer and install OS9.2.1 onto the hard disk. BUT then you can't boot off that system you've just installed.

Not strange, similar perculiar things like that exist for other Macs, ie. the AirPort Extreme card in the 1GHz eMac, works in OSX, but if you boot into OS9 (which it does), you lose wireless altogether. Don't ask about the original iMac 233MHz and OS9.0.4, it's even stranger.

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by Protocol 7 - 2010, August 8 - 8:37pm

I guess there would be little if any difference between the OS X install discs. And the iBook only had 3 restore discs so there's more software in the MDD set.

BTW the Mac OS ROM version in the iBook's OS9 dmg is 9.7.1 so it might also boot a MDD if that's the only requirement.

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by Protocol 7 - 2010, August 7 - 6:58pm

Great work Bob. Thanks so much!

I have a similar set (9.2.2 / 10.2.1) that came with my G3 iBook. Would there be any point uploading it? I'm not sure yet how different they would be.

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by MadMac - 2010, August 7 - 6:38pm

bob, you rock and you know it!