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Apple Dylan TR

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Apple_Dylan-PPC.cdr_.sit (132.88 MB)
MD5: c1feb184c40dac4f637be3aa19219745
For System 7.0 - 7.6 - Mac OS 9
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Dylan_Related.sit (7.88 MB)
MD5: f0d169ef953b63100e5e8182e6e244e0
For System 7.0 - 7.6 - Mac OS 9
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us [mirror].de
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us [mirror].de
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us [mirror].de
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us [mirror].de
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us [mirror].de
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us [mirror].de
This app works with: SheepShaver,

Dylan was created in the early 1990s by Apple ATG.

Originally released under Macintosh System 7 compiled for 68k processors to demonstrate that it could run on low power hardware, similar to the Newton's early ARM processor. In practice, it ran, but not well.

Initially it was intended for use with Apple's Newton PDA. Unfortunately, the Dylan implementation did not reach sufficient maturity in time, and Newton had to ship with a combination of C and the NewtonScript developed by Walter Smith.

Apple ended their Dylan development effort in 1995, though they made a "technology release" version available ("Apple Dylan TR1") that included an advanced IDE.

Apple's Dylan was patched over the years by Apple ATG to run on PowerPC processors. Unfortunately, ATG was terminated by Steve Jobs in his return to Apple, and the project was never patched to run in Mac OS X "Classic Mode".

An open source successor was compiled from the ashes of other Dylan implementations (official history), living on as Open Dylan.

See also: Apple Dylan Alpha 1 Seed Release

Architecture: 68k PPC


Duality's picture
by Duality - 2020, February 20 - 7:44am

February 19, 2020. Rest in piece, Larry Tesler, man of "no modes", File/Edit/View/Help, Cut/Copy/Paste, and heaven knows how many other things we take for granted across GUIs today.

To me, Dylan is one of the more interesting projects that Tesler advocated.

Dylan never became the better dynamic language to power the Newton. Tesler later admitted that Apple's ATG research group was not a good fit for developing software for smaller production devices that needed to be as fast as they could be. It's still a fun environment to play with, if you don't mind the PARC-meets-MIT flavor of combining Smalltalk elements with Lisp.

I should update the reference to Open Dylan. The website has been through a redesign, it has a very nice history page that's worth calling out for what happened with Dylan after it left Apple.

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by Kitchen2010 - 2016, August 21 - 9:46am

Thank you for your assistance!
If you do not lock the .cdr image the disk utility gives me an "no mountable filesystems" error, but locking the CD image helped me to get it mounted.

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by MikeTomTom - 2016, August 21 - 2:02am

@ Protocol 7: Thanks for adding/restoring the archive.
@ Kitchen2010: Those checksums match from what I've DL'd, and double-clicking the .cdr mounts it OK onto my desktop. However, Toast 6 will not mount the image, but this doesn't surprise me as it is failing to mount any image I've thrown at it to date (I'm using version 6 from here). Anyway I think the image is OK and double-clicking it to mount, works for me - I locked the .cdr immediately after extracting, if it helps.

[Edit] Tried mounting it on PPC G4 running 10.4x - Mounts fine, both by double-clicking to mount and also by using Toast version 5.2.3 to mount.

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by Protocol 7 - 2016, August 21 - 1:44am

This was originally a rar file so I repacked it to stuffit for here. That .cdr hash matches the original file.

I tried it in Sheepshaver before uploading and it worked there. I'm not sure why it won't mount for you.

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by Kitchen2010 - 2016, August 20 - 6:52pm

I could not manage to get the .cdr CD image mounted. I tried Disk Utility and Toast 6. Here the MD5 checksums of the archive and the extracted CD image file:
MD5 (Apple Dylan-PPC.cdr) = 7cdc1df85f61b352874b87b3111703cd
MD5 (Apple_Dylan-PPC.cdr_.sit) = c1feb184c40dac4f637be3aa19219745

Can you check it again, please?

Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2016, August 20 - 2:12pm

I've upped a .cdr I have of the Dylan technical release. It's not clean (has a .Trashes folder) but it's the only copy I have.

The "Dylan Related" archive is a folder from the August 1996 Tool Chest CD. It contains sample code and other stuff.

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by Nicolas Bahamondes - 2013, April 14 - 7:15pm

Any relationship with the name and the obession of Steve Jobs with Bob Dylan?

iig's picture
by iig - 2011, January 5 - 8:06pm

Boy, this sure looks cool!
Thanks for the upload!

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by Anonymous - 2009, September 4 - 5:25pm

Oh man that's great, I have read about it, there were some legal issues with Bob Dylan, and Jobs financially solved it ; )

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by pablomarx - 2009, September 4 - 5:04pm

I am still unable to get uploads to work. The purchase link should work to download this. Screenshots are available here: and