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What SSD are you using? Wallstreets were fussy about their boot drives. I have found the only things that worked were Toshibas and Travelstars. I have five of these and would be interested in converting them.

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I've got the G4 dual 1.25/23 inch LCD running. Time to thin out my collection of 68k/PPC units. Umax S900/G4 800, 6400/g3/400, 7600 G3, 5500/G3 400, IIFX w/extra board and floppy drive, IICI/PPC 100 card, box of Titanium "books, box of Lombo/Pismo books, Powerbook 100, 210-2300 board, many 230/280c, 270c, 190c w5300ce/117 board, 5300c/100, 5300ce/117, 3400/200-240, Kanga, Stylewriter 1200, 2200, 2400. PB 2400/180 with video issue, ADB DeskJets, Color Classics, SE, SE/30, iMac 233, 400, 500, 700, and parts... eBay?

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@macwrench: eBay most definitely. Tho' I suspect that your best returns would be made on the SE/30, Color Classics and perhaps the IIfx & IICI. What country do you live in?

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U.S. Not concerned about making a bunch of money off the stuff. Hate to throw it if Mac users want to play with them...

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macwrench: if you are not worrried about money, head over to 68kmla and post your stuff for sale there first, then you know the buyers will appreciate and use them Smile you won't have any trouble selling things like the SE/30, CC, IIfx etc, and i'm sure most of the other stuff aswell, just don't expect to get ebay prices for them.

As for what i run macgarden apps on... everything and anything that runs mac os. the only exception is probably my plus as i haven't had my 8600 setup since about 2010 (when it was used to image my 800k discs that became the basis of my server) and that's my only "bridge" mac, that will change now i have had the chance to get out the 8600 and upgrade quite a bit Smile

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Update:

When i find time (difficult with work and family) i mainly use my performa 6116.

This is the configuration:

- Performa 6116 with sonnet g3 at 500mhz installed
- 136mb of ram
- PDS 7100 video card with 1 mb
- 4x apple cd rom drive
- 73gb hard drive (3 partitions, one for system 7.5, one for mac os 8.1 and one for mac os 9.0)
- Macintosh color display M1212
- Apple adb keyboard M3501
- Macally one mouse button
- Roland MT-32 device
- AAUI ethernet adaptor

Note: Soon i will have apple 8100 pds video card and a new pram battery

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I use the performa mainly for games (especially adventures). I have also the following:

1) Imac G3 Indigo
- Powerpc G3 500 mhz
- 1 gb ram
- 40 gb hard drive
- Ati Rage 16mb video card
- DVD RW external portable device
- Mac OS 9.1 greek, Mac OS 9.2 & Mac OS Tiger installed.

Note: soon i will have 120gb hard drive and an airport card with the required adapter.

2) Powerbook 540c
- Motorola 68LC040 at 33 mhz
- 36mb ram
- 320mb hard drive
- system 7.5 installed

3) Powermac G4 MDD (FW400)
- 1.25 ghz single proccessor
- 1768 mb ram
- nVidia GeForce 4mx 32MB AGP
- CD-RW Asus CRW-5232A3
- 60gb hard drive
- Mac Os 9.2.2 & Mac Os Tiger installed

note: soon i will have Gforce Ti4600 128mb ram, 300gb hard drive & airport card. I intend to buy a sonnet encore mdx dual proccessor card in the future.

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I have a couple of Power Macs:

  • iBook G3 300 MHz (original, 1999, without FireWire) running Mac OS X 10.4.11 and I am trying to get Mac OS 8.6 and 9.2.2 on it
  • Power Mac G3 B&W 350 MHz, running Mac OS 8.6 and Mac OS X 10.4.11
  • Power Mac G4 AGP, not running (I used a firmware upgrade for a CPU upgrade card, now it doesn't boot anymore. Maybe I find the time to repair it again. I have the following CPUs available: single-400 MHz, single-450 MHz, Dual-450 MHz, Dual-500 MHz, single-533 MHz, single-1.0 GHz (tested for the Cube, required the firmware mod), single-1.4 GHz (OWC upgrade, no firmware mod needed)
  • Power Mac G4 AGP, seems to be broken as it sometimes didn't boot; disassembled at the moment (and noteworthy: the mobo is not Dual-capable)
  • Power Mac G4 Cube, died last year (suddenly, out of the blue, only booted in safe mode, ever!) Ran Mac OS 9.0.4 (I tried to upgrade it to 9.2.2 german) and Mac OS X 10.4.11
  • Power Mac G4 Quicksilver Dual-800 MHz running Debian Linux and any Mac OS X I have for testing (from time to time)…
  • Mac mini G4 1.5 GHz running Mac OS X 10.4.11 (the one from the Cube)… well, I decided to get this one as a replacement for the Cube
  • Power Mac G5, original 2003, Dual-2 GHz, for testing things (I try to get 10.2.8 on it…) – quite fast, usable, fun to work with.
  • Power Mac G5 "Late-2005" Dual-2 GHz (PCI-Express) as a primary Desktop PC, will soon run Debian Linux, Gentoo Linux and Mac OS X 10.4.11 and 10.5.8

The Macs in bold text are in active use, at least from time to time. The two most used ones are the G3 B&W which I use at work and the Mac mini G4 which I use at home to listen to music and for visiting the garden… Party
The G5 Late-2005 will replace my PC which just went out of business. I will run Linux as my primary system on it, as soon as I succeed in installing it… Puzzled
To be honest, I use the software from Macintosh Garden not very much, as I still have to set up a stable Mac OS 8/9 machine for its use. But I use some games on my Power Mac G3 B&W and intend to on my iBook G3 "Clamshell". I read that some games only work on Mac OS 8.6 but not on 9.0/9.1/9.2, because Apple changed too much in the system, even though Mac OS 8.6 is not that much different to 9.0 compared to the difference between Mac OS 8.0 to 8.6. Anyhow, I am having trouble to get 8.6 on the Clamshell. 9.1 would work right away, as I luckily got the CD image from the garden. Let's see.
As you can see I mainly run Mac OS X 10.4 on my Macs. I use TenFourFox, iTunes, Office:mac 2004 and Virtual PC (not so much lately, but I have it). I also got the gift from Adobe, CS2, on my Macs. But I don't use it very often, except for Acrobat 8 maybe.

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I don't remember if I ever posted in this thread...

My Mac machines include the following:

eMac G4 1GHz "Northern Lights"
iBook G3 (can't remember exact specs)
MacBook Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz Black

The eMac is still my favorite, with its super crisp CRT display. I actually have several different eMacs, including a newer 1.42GHz one with OS X on it.

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Don't know if this is a repost. I now only have one Mac capable of OS9, that is an original 700MHz G4 "Sunflower" iMac. It is up to the task for every OS9 app/game I seem to throw at it (thanks to the 32MB graphics card, and lovely screen). I am ashamed to say that I have not booted this computer in over 6 months Sad

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667 mhz TiBook, the VGA model, running OS 9. That's my daily runner and coffee shop machine (has a new battery). I'll occasionally fire up my 300mhz Wallstreet Powerbook (maxed, with DVD and card), but that one's in cherry condition and I want to keep it that way Smile

I've got a Bondi Blue iMac Rev B in storage as well, but she doesn't get much use these days. Those are my three classic machines.

I also have a Dual 2.0ghz G5/23" Cinema Display that I run more modern games/apps on, running both Tiger and Leopard; a 1.5 ghz Powerbook G4 DVI that doesn't see much use anymore, and a 2006 Blackbook that stays on my desk attached to my 20" aluminum Cinema Display, for music creation.

Just about every Mac I've ever owned can be found in pictures at http://atari.vg-network.com/macs

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I have my PM8500 setup for running some of the more demanding apps and recently setup my Classic.

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I used to have a Pismo PowerBook, 400 MHz G3 and 512 MB RAM and all, but sold that off at a garage sale.

I make do with something considerably less powerful now - a Power Mac 6500.

250 MHz 603ev, 256k cache, 96 MB of RAM (the only thing upgraded before I got a hold of it), swapped out the stock 4 GB drive for a 10 GB one, and dropped in a spare Voodoo2 12 MB (because the 3D Rage II is crap) and a PCI Gigabit Ethernet card.

Sadly, I feel like the CPU in this thing's really holding me back for late-'90s games even more than the 128 MB RAM ceiling, and L2 slot G3 upgrades tend to go for stupidly high prices to the point where I might as well buy a different Power Mac altogether. I know what a Voodoo2 should be truly capable of on the PC side of the fence, and it's pretty clearly screaming at me to get a G3 or better to back it up with.

Even with all the limitations, though, it's still a keeper. It runs old Mac games way better than SheepShaver would, it has native ADB for old joysticks, and it's generally adequate for most of the games that I would want to play on it anyway.

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I have the following for my Mac Garden downloads, OS9 & 10.4 as needed,

Ti Powerbook 1GHz
Grey iMac 600MHZ - Grand Kids
Grey iBook DV 466MHz - Floater/backup

All working good (knock on wood) ATM.

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With 2 PowerMac G5 Quads with 16GB ram, Quadro FX4500 512MB and 2 beautiful PowerPC 970MP 2.5GHz CPU's with two cores. My daughter uses a Power Mac G5 2.3 GHz Dual core for her pleasures with 3.5 GB ram and a 6600GT 256mb

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I use a variety of Macs to run classic apps. Depending on how old the software is, I try to use the Mac that is closest to the time of release. My oldest model is an LCIII (recently recapped) with max RAM and VRAM and original 160MB HD with original SSW install, 7.5 I believe. I also use a Perfoma 640 DOS also with original system install, Performa 6115, PM 8100/80AV, 7500/100, Performa6320, 8600/300/PC, G3 Beige, G3B&W, iMacG3, A few G4's (Which I need to get rid of all but the DP500) and A PMG5 DP1.8

I think I need to part with a few of these because I just don't have room to keep them setup. They all have various versions of Classic and OSX installed usually with what it came with and run different apps on each. I would still like to find a newer series of the Mac II line. I am honestly not a huge fan of the Black and White era Macs. I had an Amiga in those days. I didn't get into Macs until the 7200/75 in 1995 or so after Commodore went bust.

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I have an overclocked LC III, a Powerbook 180c, a Powerbook G3, Powerbook G4 1ghz, Powerbook G4 1.67 HR, and 2 Macbook Pros.

My favorite, and the only one that doesn't have something wrong with it, is the G3. I really wish Apple had kept using that modular style.

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My favorite, and the only one that doesn't have something wrong with it, is the G3. I really wish Apple had kept using that modular style.

Yep. My only real bugbear with Apple's computers is this annoying closed system they have and continue to get further into. When something goes wrong, it's incredibly difficult to fix it. All it's doing is creating a very wasteful society that simply throws out anything broken and buys a new one. Sad
Technician: "The storage drive is broken, it'll take six hours and $700 to open up the iMac to fix it."
Customer: "Forget it. I'll just buy a new computer."

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I'll add to the list, then Tongue

Macintosh Classic
Macintosh LC
Macintosh 7600/132
PowerBook 190CS
PowerBook Kanga
Two or three PowerBook G4 (white and aluminum)
Power Mac G4 Cube
Two Power Macintosh G5 (last model)
Mac Mini (Intel, Core 2 Duo)

Some are specced from the basic hardware to fully upgraded, it helps with testing apps / games aswell as enjoying some quality gaming, some machines are used for coding and what not... they all receive some form of love Smile

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A PowerMac G4 MDD with a 1.6ghz Sonnet Encore/MDX is my primary machine, but I do have a 1ghz TiBook, PowerBook 540c, Quadra 700 and PowerMac 9500 as well for < Mac OS 9.x stuff.

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my macs that can boot classic os are:
PowerMac G3 B&W 450mhz / Mac os 8.6
PowerMac G4 Sawtooth 450Mhz / Mac os 9
Quicksilver 933Mhz / Mac os 9
MDD 1.25Ghz / Mac os 9
Performa 5200CD / Mac os 7.6

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I had an iMac DV+ (450 MHz, Summer 2000) a couple of years ago that I used to use to play old games, but then the optical drive broke and I hauled it off to the recycling center Sad My current computer is an iBook G3/700 (Opaque White) dual-booting Mac OS X 10.3.9 and Mac OS 9.2.2. I have yet to download any games onto it, but I plan to.

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I picked up a Mac Server G4 "Quicksilver" from my school a couple of days ago. It's my primary computer at the moment. I'm hoping to put some Mac Garden stuff on it Smile

Specs:

Processor: Single 933 MHz PowerPC G4
RAM: 384 MB PC133 SDRAM (1x 256 MB, 1x 128 MB)
HDD: Apple-supplied Seagate 80GB 3.5-inch internal HDD (I'm hopefully gonna be able to put a secondary HDD in it as well, of the same capacity)
CD: Apple-supplied HL-DT-ST internal CD-RW
Graphics: NVidia GeForce2 MX (32 MB VRAM)

(By the way, I apologize for the double post, I didn't think to edit my previous post.)

UPDATE: Installed in it another 256 MB memory module (bringing the total to 640 MB) and another 80 GB hard drive. Also put in a DVD-ROM drive so that I could play DVDs on it. Looked for a dual-processor upgrade card, but couldnʻt find anything affordable (Iʻm rather short on money at the moment). Tried to install Mac OS X Public Beta 1H39 on it, but apparently the hardware is too new Sad

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These days the Mac Mini G4 (1.5 Ghz, 1GB RAM, 10.4.11) is pretty much my machine 98% of the time I'm visiting the Garden. Still a great machine after all those years, if you consider it wasn't close to high-end during it's heydays.

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My main "retro computer" is a beige PowerMac G3 minitower @ 333MHz. I found it in 2005 in the dumpster of an office building I used to work at. I've always been a Mac fanatic, so I couldn't bear to leave it.

Also have a titanium 1GHz PowerBook G4, which served as a work computer for many years before becoming antiquated.

Sitting around in a box in the garage somewhere is a graphite 400MHz iMac, a Performa 630CD, and a Centris 650.

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hehe, 6 years since i posted in this thread. I still have the clamshell Tongue

Inbetween now and then I had a PowerMac G3, which died last year

I've switched to a 400mhz Pismo now which is great, the battery still holds a charge (prev owner brought a new one). The VGA out means I can capture footage too, which I couldn't do with the iBook

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Been a while.
Picked up 4x Mac Mini G4s at my school fair last year, all for $10.
Added a new G5 dual core 2GHz and just bought another G5 dual processor 2GHz.

A bad year for some of the old Macs - my prized dual processor 2.5GHz G5 is getting flakey, found the coolant had leaked last year, stripped it, cleaned it, got it going again, but it's on it's way out.
XServe G4 died too, makes a good heat shield for some of the others.
Thought the dual 1GHz G4 MDD had died too, tried for a month to get it going again, nearly disposed of it, then while I was pulling stuff from the flakey G5, I pulled it's power cord and put it in the MDD next to it. Tried to start it up, with no hope, started first time. Put the original MDD power cable in, no start, back to the G5 power cable, perfect. Doh.

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Welcome back!

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bertyboy! Nice to see your sunny avatar again. Still in the antipodes? Keeping fit and well and holding up better than your old Mac's, I hope.

Good to hear the MDD was an easy fix tho'. Wink

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Still here. Joined a new US firm a while ago and just completed a lot of work in Beijing. But more importantly, I am glad the hot humid summers are on their way out over here, they are the death of my old Macs.

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Yes, its been a stinker this side of the ditch, hopefully the heat's left us for another year. Of my old Mac's still in working order I don't have very many; The guts of a Beige G3 sitting in an old ATX box is my main OS 9 machine, a G4 iBook running Tiger, and a Centris 660av that runs 7.1.1 - on and on and on... will be 24 years old in August Smile

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Got an iBook G3/466 SE "Key Lime" from my old high school a few weeks ago, and I'm loving it Smile Running Mac OS 9.2.2 currently, 576 MB of RAM (upgraded from 320 MB), original 10 GB HDD, new replacement battery... Even with the slow 4200 RPM hard drive, runs quite well. I'm even writing this post on it. Smile

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I'm running Apple's cadillac OS9 machine, MDD2003. Astonishing that it isn't the most popular model. I consistently IGNORE any and all software's "system requirements" because no matter what they are, my model lays waste to it. For example i've run the game "Prey" even when my CPU is underclocked and Prey claims to need G5 hardware.

This "Mirror Door" G4 of mine has quiet fans, an External ATX (generic) power supply, 1.6GHz 7455B CPU with apple's copper heatsink, clickwheel mouse, externally amplified stereo audio, USB-2 added-on (who wouldn't?), G5 AGP-8x core-image graphics, 1920x1200 screen (way better than 1920x1080), G5 1GB RAM modules -plural, SATA (6gb/s) SSDs and spinners bigger than 2TB each. Us serious nutcases use the full size Tower formfactor so that we can do these mods; "laptops" are all disposable junk imo.

I have Two internal laser disc drives. My upper unit connects solo to the ATA-66MHz port (two drives sharing a PATA ribbon do have trouble communicating at faster than ATA-33MHz). This upper drive can peak read a 4.7GB DVD up to 20MB/s which exceeds what apple's default ATA-33MHz port does. In 2004 Apple lied to me about optical drives, claiming the ATA-33 "MB/sec" port would stay fast enough for all time. They said the then speed of DVD around 5-10 MB/sec wouldn't be beaten because "the disc can't spin any faster than it already is" - those frauds were proposing disc spin speed was all important and to them drivehead cycle frequency didn't matter... My bottom laser disc is a generic (Apple sells none?) Blu-Ray model connected solo to the ATA-100MHz port and it reads the outside edge of a Blu-Ray disc at over 50MB/sec, humiliating Apple dot-com and their ATA-33 "eternal limit" any way you slice it!

I prefer OSes Tiger over leo-pard, Jaguar over pant-her, and 9.2.1 over nine-tutu! I have them all installed, and With Firewalls Between 'em! My old ATA-33MHz port has a trial version of MorphOS on SSD and a toggle switch to shut it off when not in use; ATA-33 would be doin nothing otherwise.

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Sounds like an awesome machine! Smile

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Donated all my Macs (including my ridiculously rare Performa 6xx prototype) to the youngest Mac-collector in Norway 10 years ago, and regretted it from day one Sad

But what goes around comes around, and 1 year ago my dear colleague and long-standing friend Dr. Omenaas donated the following Macs to me:

iMac G3 DV SE Graphite
iMac G4
Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
iBook G3 FireWire Key Lime

... and still looking for a G4 Cube Tongue

All the Macs are dual-booting Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, 2 out of my 3 favourite Mac OS iterations ever! And all the Macs are running software from the Garden, of course Wink

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So you have a Key Lime too, eh? Awesome Smile

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I've always thought the iMac G4 to be the "typical Doctors' workstation" Wink
It's a lovely machine, too!

You always think you won't regret donating a couple of machines, but it leaves you kinda empty with some form of regret, huh? Tongue

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Yes, I've always liked the iMac G4 design myself, but I still like the G3 better, TBH Wink

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+1 on that Smile That said, my G4 is my primary machine on a day to day basis due to the the simple fact that my G3 is a bit too slow and my Quicksilver is a bit to large Smile

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True, the G4s of that era are pretty large. I used to have a Quicksilver Server, which my school was going to recycle, and it was something of a beast, lol

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Hehe Laughing out loud

Word, brother! Seriously thought: "Hey, finally getting rid of all my old junk, and doing a good deed in one motion" *forehead-slap as soon as the Macs were dropped off* Tongue

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Amazing I haven't posted here yet, I think! I've kept quite a few non-working Macs I just haven't been able to toss, although a few of them would likely boot-up with the right care, anywho..

At the moment, my 68k MG apps run on my Chromebook w/Mac OS 8 (emu) and Mac OS 9 on my Comet. The rest are used on a 17" PB G4 w/Tiger, an '07 Macbook 2GHz w/Lion and a '09 Mac Mini w/El Cap.

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Dude! You need a proper OS 9 machine! Have a spare iMac DV SE Graphite (2001) that's just collecting dust, but think it would be a fortune shipping it off Tongue

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Now you're talking, Bry!

Hey, maybe next time I'm in your neck of the woods I'll take you up on that offer..I can just see it now, trying to lug it onto the plane back home, "sir, sir, you can't hold that monitor on your lap!", "what do you mean, it's not a monitor, it's my new mac!", "oh! in that case, carry on sir!", Lol!

But seriously, thanks for watching out, man!

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But seriously though, cbone! Right now it's just sitting in storage taking up space just in case the PMU of my main G3 ever starts making blue smoke. So hit me up if you're ever in Norway (I live in the main capital Oslo), and I have an extra iMac put aside free for you Smile

Also have a Blueberry (not Bondi) iMac, but was planning on making that into a badass cat-cove (hope I'm not cursing in church right now Tongue ) *holding my breath*

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Yeah, I've seen that done with a G3 iMac before, if your Blueberry isn't working that's a cool idea Smile

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Well that IS the problem: It's fully functional Sad If I decide to go through with it, I will harvest the internals as spares for my DV SE. Still a true shame though, as it will represent one less iMac in circulation Sad

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Shoosh! Any talk about killing any Mac, especially the old timers, is strictly verboten around these parts.. Now cursing's mildly tolerated unless you were using your text-to-speech phone app during (a real late) Sunday evening service, lol!

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Just wait for it to die of natural causes, bro Smile

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Hehe Laughing out loud Word, brother! Then you truly understand the agony I have in this predicament. Been postponing it for the past year or so, and still don't have the heart to go through with it Sad Been rationalizing to myself that I then will be able to display this industrial design marvel front and center in my apartment, but it still doesn't cut it for me. Could have asked you guys here at the Garden for more rationalizations, but I think I then would be better off over at Macrumors these days, hehe Tongue