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WANTED: Vox 0.2.7 with modification date 2010.09.22!

Hey guys!

I've updated Alessio Nonni's awesome Vox 0.2.7 to add compatibility with Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite Smile

Why, you ask? Cause Vox 0.2.7 was the last no-nonsense light-weight hassle-free completely freeware version of Vox before Alessio sold the rights to Coppertino. Though Coppertino has done some wonderful things to Vox since then, they have also bloated Vox with background daemons and a freemium model making it barely usable anymore Sad

This is also where the problem lies. Vox 0.2.7 has barely a year left to turn abandonware, and Alessio published it under a CC BY-ND 3.0 license. As such, I'm adhering to the original license by distributing Vox unaltered together with an Updater that each end-user may use to add Yosemite compatibility. However, as Coppertino now owns the rights to Vox, does anyone know if that retrogradely invalidates the license under which Vox 0.2.7 was published?

Would really like to publish it here at the Garden once time is up...

Anyways, for anyone interested, Vox 0.2.7 Yosemite Compatibility Update can be downloaded here for the time being:

http://www.mednotes.net/about/portfolio/programmer/#vox

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Hey Bry,

Thanks for this very cool update, my friend!

I'll just keep my fingers crossed on this one. I know that as far as I've seen, older versions retain their licensing terms and new versions adhere to whatever new licensing terms the present owners choose for their products. I hope that makes sense! Wink

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However, as Coppertino now owns the rights to Vox, does anyone know if that retrogradely invalidates the license under which Vox 0.2.7 was published?

Pretty sure that not: once a copyright holder hands anything over to someone under a license, that's it. Those rules "forever" apply. What could happen is that, for some later version, there could be a totally different license provided by the copyright holder, and not the original license, leaving people "stuck" to an older version if they don't agree with the new version terms (this happened with the React.js Facebook-owned JavaScript library and was a problem for some years).

It's also possible that the copyright holder redistributes a version under multiple licenses later on, but, again, none of that can invalidate the original. Even if they stop offering that specific license for future customers.

So, with all that said, I think it's more than safe to upload Vox 0.2.7.1 (slightly more updated than 0.2.7), which was always distributed for free, the license allows it and it doesn't get in the way of business from Coppertino's point-of-view because they themselves distribute (Intel-only) older versions that don't nag the user like the latest versions (3.0+). Although one can help Coppertino by putting a link to their page on the description for users interested in purchasing the versions they sell, for Intel Macs. (Not applicable to PPC.)

With all that said, more than uploading v0.2.7.1, which was the last Tiger-compatible version and the last non-beta version before Coppertino purchased it all, there was version 0.2.8 beta 2, the latest Leopard (and PowerPC) compatible version. It does have some improvements and more features than 0.2.7.1.
The problem? That version is gone. No matter how much I use Google-fu and archive.org all over the interwebz, it's rock-solid dead. Some people out there in this planet probably still have it, though. And who knows, maybe there are some obscure websites outside the reach of the HTTP and FTP protocols that have it. The original filename was "Vox_0.2.8_beta_2.zip". The term "0.2.8b2" may be helpful, too (or not).

For anyone curious, this is the exact Vox versioning evolution:
- 0.2.7
- 0.2.7.1
- 0.2.8 beta 1 (Leopard+ only)
- 0.2.8 beta 2
- 0.3 beta 1 (Snow Leopard+ only)
- 0.3 beta 2 (first Coppertino-era version, still available on their website)

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Someone found the latest Leopard (and PPC) version!

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/vox-0-2-8-beta-2.2194396/

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Page created: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/vox-02x

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Wonderful additions with Vox 0.2.7.1 and 0.2.8b2, Jatoba Smile I extensively beta-ed both of them 5 years ago, but decided to go for 0.2.7 due to some bug on Yosemite that was not present on 0.2.7. However, can't seem to remember what that bug was for the life of me Sad So perhaps they're both worth a spin again Smile

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Hi Guys!

Just dropping by quickly to give you a heads up that Vox Legacy 1.2 has been released Laughing out loud

Grab it here: http://www.mednotes.net/about/portfolio/programmer/#vox

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Oh yeah, and beta-ed 0.2.7.1/0.2.8b, and remembered why I opted for 0.2.7: They break compatibility with tracker music Sad

If anyone has Vox 0.2.7 with modification date 2010.09.22 PLEASE give me a heads up, as this version of Vox 0.2.7 restores compatibility with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger!

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Bravo!! Great work again my friend Laughing out loud I'll make sure to keep an eye out for the elusive 0.2.7 'Tiger' version

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Thanks, buddy! Vox 0.2.7 with modification date 2010.09.22 would be worth its weight in GOLD!

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Hi guys! Does anyone have Vox 0.2.7 with modification date 2010.09.22 lying around? It is SORELY needed in order to restore Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger compatibility to 'Vox Legacy'! Please please PLEASE give me a heads up if you by any chance have it lying around! It wound be INVALUABLE to both me and many more!

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I promise, I've looked a few times at every spot online even hinting at having any digital Vox install copies! Smile

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Yeah, man! Me too! But still hoping that someone actually were foresighted enough to download the NEWER Vox 0.2.7 (I didn't even know there were 2 versions!), and would be kind enough to upload it here at the Garden Smile