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Timbuktu Pro Versions

To all yeah good folks in here who are willing to help 68k tech to take over the world of Windoze Wink

I managed to hook up my vintage Mac 68k Tiimbuktu 4.06 client with a Timbuktu 8 Server on Windows 10 (XP mode). But even so the mouse pointer keeps moving around, the screen on the client side stays mostly blank. So I recon that either my client or my server or both could use an "upgrade".

Does anyone have a more recent version of either Timbuktu for MacOS 68k or of Timbuktu for Windows, than the ones posted on the Garden?

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Maybe this helps:
https://macintoshgarden.org/sites/macintoshgarden.org/files/apps/timbukt...

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Swell, swell - I'll give it a try!

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Thx again. The host installs and runs just fine on Win10. But as soon as I connect from the Mac side the desktop Window opens and closes just as fast again.
Seems my Mac client is too old for this version. Sad

Any chance on getting a more recent 68k release than 4.0.6?

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Timbuktu Pro 4.7.1 or 5.2.3? - Both here for download.

Timbuktu Pro 5.2.3 for Mac OS Release Notes:
Choosing Between Version 5.2.3 and 4.0.6 of Timbuktu Pro
• If you are running a version of the Mac OS whose version numbers are between 7.5 and 8.0, you must install Timbuktu Pro 4.0.6.
• If you are running Mac OS 8.1, you may install either Timbuktu Pro 5.2.3 or Timbuktu Pro 4.0.6.
• If you are running Mac OS 8.5, 8.6, or 9.0, you should install Timbuktu Pro 5.2.3.

Timbuktu Pro Requires AppleScript
Timbuktu Pro requires AppleScript to run. If you have disabled or removed AppleScript, reenable it or use the original System Installer to reinstall AppleScript.

If you have installed QuickTime 3.0 or 4.0, Timbuktu Pro's Intercom service will be able to use the PureVoice compressor/decompressor included with QuickTime.

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The 5.x version available for download from the Garden is PPC only.

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BTW: I learned how to do it here:
https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/29903-fun-with-remote-managem...
(you have to sign up)
They spoke about Windows too.

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BTW:
you wrote "as soon as I connect from the Mac side"
You have to use the faster computer to connect to the slower computer, not the other way.

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It is the essence of a client/server setup, that the slower machine connects to the more powerful one.

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It is the essence of computer software that newer versions can often talk to older versions when the older versions can't talk to the newer ones. Frustrating, but true. Otherwise, you're completely correct -- get the beefier hardware to do the heavy lifting. Try it the other way and see if you can get it to work; after all, TB2 was designed to work on 68k Macs, so it should be able to handle it.

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True. I can remote control my 68k Mac SE/30 (slowly!) with my recent intel Mac mini (using TB 8.8.5 and TB 4), but I could never do it the other way.
Most times I only use exchange files by using the faster machine.

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I can relate to that, with the one exception of making local VNC connections Smile

I've used VNC to remote into a local Windows machine or Intel Mac and then use whatever remote software those machines have installed to go outside my LAN Wink it was a while ago, but it should still work (it may require picking the right and compatible VNC server on the faster and newer end)

So in such a scenario, Timbuktu could run on the faster computers and then it could be used to connect to another Timbuktu install online. I'm assuming that its connections work fine online; I've actually never used it before!

I also have a Timbuktu-specific question: does Timbuktu work within any emulators at all? I use Basilisk II (OS 8.1) on Android and QEMU (and to a lesser degree, SheepShaver) on El Capitan.

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Yes it does , i have timbuktu installed and working on several BasiliskII and SheepShaver VMs.
Problem is when you want to reach these VMs with Timbuktu if they are running on MacOS X, because BII and SheepShaver on OS X uses Slirp as ethernet connection emulation, which forces you to use an IP out of your local network range (10.0.1.5 from memory). Trying to connect to these with Timbuktu from another machine won't work. But connecting from these VMs with Timbuktu to another machine work.
Now with BII or SheepShaver on Linux it works both ways , if you compile and use the ethernet driver for these instead of Slirp. This gives you a IP address in your local IP range, and you can connect to these VMs from another machine running Timbuktu.
It works fine on Qemu too, be it on Mac OS X or Linux, as it fully emulates an ethernet connection on your local network.

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You can always use a tap device instead of Slirp on macOS. It's a bit tricky on Catalina, but it's still possible.

I've also been considering making a port forwarder for SLIrP for macOS; it listens on the host, and redirects to the internal address. Should be doable, might take a bit of work/time.

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I can confirm the uni-directional connection issue on Android. But I wonder how you connect from 68k Timbuktu to Windows Timbuktu? When I try that all I get is a black screen, because the T versions are just too far appart. I am still waiting for my NT version of Timbuktu to arrive, hoping that might work.

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Folks I just bought a Windows NT version of Timbuktu on Amazon and with that I'll prove to you all, that I can dominate my Win10 MiniPC ftom within my 68k B-II system.

Nobody can stop the power of 68k - gosh I am getting all dizzy by that adrenalin rush. Wink