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Request: Nowhouse Propeller Paint

Looking for an old photoshop plugin by Nowhouse called Propeller Paint.

Thanks in advance.

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I've identified the developer and located them; now I have to find their email address and contact them about getting a copy. I also found a torrent, but it stops after 23.8%, so that's no good.

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Well, I tried contacting the original developer, and first he said he would send me a copy or provide a download link, but then he changed his mind because of the fact that it's "incompatible with modern Mac systems." I told him that lots of people still use older versions of Photoshop on vintage Macs and Mac OS via emulation, so it was still useful to all of us, but he hasn't changed his mind.

So if anyone wants to take a go at getting this from him, make sure I can send you a private email via any posts you make here, and contact me to get his email address. The one thing I can't stress enough is that if you contact him, do not make any sort of reference to this being requested before by anyone, since that may kill any chance you have of getting it from him. And be sure to upload it to the Garden if you do get it.

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http://www.mediafire.com/?gjadkadft6t9ove

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The Mediafire file is corrupt, download and checked several times...

"The shrinkwrap engine has reported an error

error -60 "

I use Stuffit 5.5

Also, will this plugin work for Photoshop 4?

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It extracts OK for me to what appears to be a Disk Copy 6 Compressed 1.4MB floppy disk image file. It extracts to a 1.4MB HFS file @ 6xx KB in file size.

However Disk Copy cannot mount the image and claims that is damaged. On Mac OS X, Disk Utility cannot mount it either, reporting that it is damaged and gives an error message of "codec overrun".

I used Stuffit Expander 5.5 on OS 7.1.1 & 9.0.4 - Extracts from the .sit OK
I used Stuffit Expander 8.0.2 on OS X 10.3.9 - Also extracts the .sit OK.

It was the enclosed Disk Copy image file that is the problem. For me, it is unusable.

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Huh. I'll take a look. If this is the case, you'll likely have to find it elsewhere :[

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I'm of the opinion that this file was compressed and/or stored on a Windows volume, thus trashing the resource fork and rendering it useless.

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I'm of the opinion that this file was compressed and/or stored on a Windows volume

No. This has the Mac resource fork intact. Its just another example of why archives need to be tested as working before uploading or storing.

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There may be a resource fork there (or a partial one), but it's been trashed; otherwise we'd be able to mount the NDIF. Merely compressing the Photoshop extension with Stuffit would not cause this problem.

It was Mr. Gates, in the bedroom, with the fireplace poker!

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No, the resource fork of the enclosed Disk Copy file is 100% a-OK, its the data fork inside the disk image thats the problem. I have had on rare occasion Disk Copy failing to create a good image and its why I also test any image file I make, when making archives.

Disk Copy & Disk Utility give error messages -8819 and I don't have a list of Disk Copy error codes to decipher - DU also adds a "codec overrun" message.

However, taking the image to HFVExplorer to attempt mounting the disk image, it gives a "Too many b-tree node records (input/output error)" message on this file, which is plausible, as looking at the raw data in HexEdit, it also looks to be intact.

Its possible the original floppy disk had b-tree errors before it was archived. Anyone know how to cure damaged b-trees in disk images files?

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I don't know — the resource fork seems to be there.

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Use SS/BasII, mount the image/s with/in the emu. Run 'Norton Disk Doctor' on them. Any version carrying the Doc on a bootable floppy would do the trick like v3.x. Only(?) snag is to make the suspected images writeable.

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Good call, but been there done that (well not the Norton's bit). What I've tried and so far deduced:

This image is unmountable in:
Mac OS 7.0 - 9.2.2 using a number of Disk mounting softwares, besides Disk Copy 6.3.3 on actual Mac Hardware and Basilisk II & Sheepshaver (externally and internally).
Mac OS X Panther & Tiger using Disk Utility and also hdiutil via Terminal on actual Mac hardware & PearPC

Also, best results were with HFVExplorer which detected b-tree errors
And hdiutil on OS X which also detects the b-tree errors and a CRC mismatch.

In general, it cannot be mounted.

hdiutil & Disk Utility on OS X cannot repair/rebuild the b-tree on this image.

Anyhoo, its the corrupted b-tree thats preventing the image from mounting on actual or emulated hardware. The actual data appears to be in there, and if viewing it in HexEdit & or even dragging it onto BBEdit for a look at the raw data, it looks like it might be intact. Just may need that b-tree fix, if possible.

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There's a chance the floppy (image) is partially mounted, ie not on the desktop. If so NDD still can handle it, trying to mount it or examine it in it's present state. Also thought of 'Mini vMac' where you can drag-and-drop a floppy image on an open window in order to mount it. Don't know if 'Mini' handle images different from SS/BasII but there´s also a chance to run 'NDD' against stubborn B-Trees.

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Succeded in writing the HFV image back to a real floppy with HFVExplorer v1.31 under Windows after importing the unstuffed image from OS X.

Disk Utility in OS X (Snow Leopard) recognizes the floppy, but not mounted on desktop, tries to repair but fails. Running SS only gives the question if I want to format the disk at startup.
At the moment there´s no real thing to test this floppy on.

So far nil I'm afraid…

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Try this one:

http://www.mediafire.com/?ih8n5yzn95zacqm

I found another copy of the data fork and patched it together with the resource fork from the bad image. Seems to verify and mount.
The bad data fork has two corrupted segments.

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Thanks for the recovery attempt, Balrog. I haven't tried the filter in Photoshop yet but P 7 says its OK, only missing the brushes & patterns. I have had time to look at the PDF manual, sadly this does seem to be damaged badly.

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It loads up fine in PS4 here. The disk image lacks any brushes or patterns. Unfortunately, the waybackmachine didn't do a good job at archiving the original site.

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I have a file of palettes for this program, but neither the Wayback Machine have them archived. I also heard from the developer that he doesn't have any of those files, much less the program anymore (if he does, he can't find it), so contacting him is pointless now.

Somebody has those files somewhere; it's just a matter of finding them and then getting a copy.

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Thanks for all the work for what I thought was going to be a simple request.

I have just done some google searches and it looks like Propeller Paint became a part of the video effects program called Commotion by Pinnacle. In Commotion the old Propeller Paint feature is referred to as FX Brush. I wonder if the Commotion FX Brushes are compatible with Propeller Paint?

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the brushes and patterns from the Windows version are compatible with the mac version. From the google searches, the Windows version of Propeller Paint seems much easier to find than the Mac version.

In short, I wonder if this may be a way of recovering the missing brushes and patterns and perhaps even getting a good working copy of the PDF manual.

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I've just come across a copy of the DEMO version. It seems to be all of the features described in the manual.

But alas, the demo fails to transfer the results of using the plugin back to Photoshop.

I can post the archive if you want but it seems to be just a toy.

Gary