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I've recently updated the .zip.

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@Vitoarc:

Bah, not this again Sad

Seems like the dumper doesn't work correctly on your Mac. Second time I've seen this.

Can you run TattleTech and try to get the real ROM checksum? Thanks!

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Nice project you have going here! I saw that you didn't have the PM5500 on your list. I have the ROM for it too.

I'll check my ROMs that I have personally collected over the years and cross check them with your list.

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Can you upload the full Mac OS ROM (New World) set as the chart above (.sit file, not .zip)?

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@sheepmyshaver123: Right now we're focusing on "regular" ROMs ... as for New World ROMs, we'll get to that eventually. Please be patient.

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CyberMonkey, when you're cross-checking your ROMs against the list make sure to check the checksums. I spent ages trying to dump the ROM in my 5400 until I discovered that a) it wasn't going to happen and b) the 6400 ROM has the same checksum so mine would have been a dupe anyway.

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And use TattleTech to determine the checksum.

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@Balrog: before cluttering up your mail, do I read the chart correct when I´m saying you´re missing the 'Kanga' ROM?
Got one sitting here but seems you´ve got your share of dups… Wink

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@SwedeBear:

It's simple: if it's not in that list (or marked as missing), I don't have it. Please go by checksum -- to find the checksum of a dumped Mac ROM, look at the first few hex bytes.

It does seem we are missing it though.

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I have a genuine Performa 550. Unfortunately, it's missing a monitor.....and a power supply...and a keyboard...and a mouse...and a case.

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I've got a PowerMac 8200 lying somewhere, but it is not listed in the chart. Can it's ROM be of any interest ?

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Would a rom file of an Imac G3 be OK? I have one from a previous version Mac os 8.5. Also It is not listed from the chart!

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The iMac G3 uses a New World ROM, so what I'd need is the Mac OS ROM file. Please verify its MD5 checksum first; I have most of them.

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I know it does (It is PowerPc). It is a Mac os rom file. It said "MAC_OS_ROM". But I would need a way of getting the rom checker in to the Imac G3. Is there a way to transfer the software to the Imac G3? It does have usb.

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The ROM dumper is not useful on Macs which use the Mac OS ROM file. Just give us the file itself. Smile

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Then how would I transfer the file from an old mac if the internet is slow? And what archive should I put it in?

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If you using OSX, use zip. If you using OS9, use stuffit.

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What is it?

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The Chart at Google Docs says the incorrect "Note" for the Macinttosh Classic ROM - the "ROM Disk" isn't just the WHOLE last 256KB of the 512KB Macintosh Classic ROM, the first bit of the "ROM Disk" is at position 0x00000e10 (that was just a guess from where I found "LK", the boot block indicator. Although I'm not much active here now, I think the "ROM Disk" might actually be at position 0x00020F86) in the ROM, and the data in the "ROM Disk" is 357KB (but I don't know where exactly the last bit of the "ROM Disk" is in the Macintosh Classic ROM).

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I find this project interesting for different reasons, I often look into parts of the various ROMS to see how they do something, as well as to attempt to figure out why they are so big. I have discovered that there is a significant amount of code that has survived almost completely unchanged from the Macintosh Plus all of the way through the OLD World ROM PowerPC Macs, and even a little of the code from the original Macintosh 128k. I have also found that there is an inordinate amount of redundant routines, this being the likely source of the extreme size of the later ROMS, I would estimate that any 4MB ROM could be rewritten to reduce the amount of redundant code, and improve performance while fitting in 512KB maybe a bit less.

It also looks as if much of the ROM code is written in High level languages, a poor and unfortunate choice, as this often increases the size and reduces the performance compared to well structured, hand optimized assembly language. Not to mention that using Assembly language for most of it would have reduced the development cycle time and reduced the trouble in debugging, as well as the number and severity of bugs that make it into the final ROM.

I have always been interested in diving a little deeper into the workings of the system than most.

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Overwrote my OpenBIOS ROM with MintPPC Help!!!
now Im using Mac OS but it is painfull to hear that my CopyROM ROM doesn´t work Sad

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you can't overwrite rom, it's read only.

What did you do exactly?

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Is this project still up? I have a ROM that maaaay be the New World's Mac OS ROM 3.8, but I don't know its checksum. It won't match any of the others in the chart, though. Any help identifying this one is appreciated.

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Also, I have the "Mac OS ROM 1.2.1" from 22/01/1999. And its MD5 checksum: 483233f45e8ca33fd2fbe5201f06ac18.

Cheers!

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Here's my list; it includes older Apple computers too. Oddly, my Mac OS ROM 1.2.1 MD5 is different from Sentient06's:

MD5 (1976 Apple I 6FD865D7.rom) = 5be2fd85a99905d57785390b8b6c4ed6
MD5 (1977 Apple ][ 00000000.ROM) = 383867e17204ed3e85afbb9086edaec5
MD5 (1980 Apple 2o A9208D26.rom) = 2a68f049d44e326574b95c0ec638c1ca
MD5 (1980 Apple III A001A681.rom) = 8294a08115fd69e55af6ee3461e949e2
MD5 (1983 Apple IIe A0A0A0A0.ROM) = 003a780b461c96ae3e72861ed0f4d3d9
MD5 (1984 128K 28BA61CE [0-2.0.1 128k 512x342m].ROM) = 1d7f52d2d490524954f6afce083d9593
MD5 (1984 512K 28BA4E50 [0-2.0.1 512k 512x342m].ROM) = db7e6d3205a2b48023fba5aa867ac6d6
MD5 (1984 Apple ::C r0 50657465.rom) = e0d67bb1aabe2030547b4cbdf3905b60
MD5 (1984 Apple ::C r1 00000000.ROM) = 88434c2f87c5c180ae06b83de51c3c0a
MD5 (1986 Apple ::C r3 50657465.rom) = a513397de6fdbb96a23d8ef7647e8c9a
MD5 (1986 Apple ::C r4 50657465.rom) = eeef93ad674e43776d00050dccc1d774
MD5 (1986 Apple ::GS 01 C230A20E.ROM) = 20a0334c447cb069a040ae5be1d938df
MD5 (1986 Plus 512Ke v1 4D1EEEE1 [1.1-7.5.5 512k-4 512x342m].ROM) = 4d8d1e81fa606f57c7ed7188b8b5f410
MD5 (1986 Plus 512Ke v2 4D1EEAE1 [1.1-7.5.5 512k-4 512x342m].ROM) = 16b516e13918a439cf9031ec24353610
MD5 (1986 Plus 512Ke v3 4D1F8172 [1.1-7.5.5 512k-4 512x342m].ROM) = 8a41e0754ffd1bb00d8183875c55164c
MD5 (1987 II800kv1 97851DB6 [2.0-7.5.5 1-68].ROM) = 74f4095f7d245a9fb099a6f4a9943572
MD5 (1987 II800kv2 9779D2C4 [2.0-7.5.5 1-68].ROM) = 66223be1497460f1e60885eeb35e03cc
MD5 (1987 SE B2E362A8 [2.0-7.5.5 1-4 512x342m].rom) = 9fb38bdcc0d53d9d380897ee53dc1322
MD5 (1988 Apple ::c Plus 00000000.rom) = c8c2c4009a4a059460ed7426a9d67705
MD5 (1988 IIFDHD IIx IIcx SE30 97221136 [6.0.1-7.5.5 1-128].rom) = 2a8a4c7f2a38e0ab0771f59a9a0f1ee4
MD5 (1989 IIci 368CADFE [6.0.4-7.6.1 1-128].rom) = aaca403bed2b3870b2327b42d298b5a3
MD5 (1989 Portable 96CA3846 [6.0.4-7.5.5 1-9].ROM) = 29cbf05694b611b9d340dceabc91600a
MD5 (1989 SEFDHD B306E171 [6.0.3-7.5.5 1-4].ROM) = 886444d7abc1185112391b8656c7e448
MD5 (1990 Classic w XO ROMDisk A49F9914 [6.0.7-7.5.5 1-4 512x342m].rom) = c229bb677cb41b84b780c9e38a09173e
MD5 (1990 IIfx 4147DD77 [6.0.5-7.6.1 4-128].ROM) = e76510e5734ec651a80fadd682cebf3e
MD5 (1990 IIsi 36B7FB6C [6.0.7-7.6.1 1-65].rom) = 373f0b2150bc391227b7a2e32ac5ff2c
MD5 (1990 LC 350EACF0 [6.0.7-7.5.5 2-10].ROM) = 5d8662dfab70ac34663d6d54393f5018
MD5 (1990 Portable(Backlit) PB100 96645F9C [6.0.4-7.5.5 1-9].ROM) = dd390f7c86a730caac46fd522f8b2665
MD5 (1991 Apple ::GS 03 30000000.rom) = ba89edf2729a28a17cd9e0f7a0ac9a39
MD5 (1991 ClassicII LC550 TV P275,550,560 3193670E [7.0.1-7.6.1 2-10].rom) = 4ce45c7eb354ff70b2ea10e3b315af35
MD5 (1991 Q700,900 PB140,170 420DBFF3 [7.0.1-8.1 4-256].rom) = 493bdaf94c160d5a96e81d771f746f55
MD5 (1992 IIvx IIvi P600 4957EB49 [7.1-7.6.1 4-68].ROM) = a207e03d7da82ac6ec63359915c17904
MD5 (1992 LCII P400,405,410,430 35C28F5F [7.0.1-7.6.1 4-10].ROM) = 9575cd955c99f5dd88975c5df2651549
MD5 (1992 PB160,165c,180,180c E33B2724 [7.1-7.6.1 4-14].ROM) = a495708975aef7e23e78358547de5f23
MD5 (1992 PBD210,230,250 ECFA989B [7.1-7.5.1, 7.5.3-7.6.1 4-28].ROM) = c221f89f88922044d698eede0cf191b5
MD5 (1992 Q950 3DC27823 [7.0.1-8.1 4-256].ROM) = 1493a12f0376f50004a82c6618209da1
MD5 (1993 ColorClassic ECD99DC0 [7.1-7.6.1 4-10 512x400c].ROM) = 480794341c7a55ada1869b83615a4a9a
MD5 (1993 LC550 ColourClassicII P275,550,560 TV EDE66CBD [7.1-7.6.1 4-36].rom) = ed8e292fce939515fc9a272eca762460
MD5 (1993 LCIII (older) EC904829 [7.1-7.6.1 4-36].ROM) = 0572489d82c999aad8fcf8d28153fb27
MD5 (1993 LCIII,III+,520 P460,520 ECBBC41C [7.1-7.6.1 4-36].ROM) = fa16d49527c4e6e9c0d9e46904133d39
MD5 (1993 PBDuo 270,270c 0024D346 [7.1-7.6.1 4-24].ROM) = 69126c0bc3b93e49c00577bb24117c7c
MD5 (1993 Q605 LC475,575 P475,476,575,577,578 FF7439EE [7.1-8.1 4-132].ROM) = 76fab51d93f024d805fafd8f5c8f46a3
MD5 (1993 Q660av,840av 5BF10FD1 [7.1-8.1 8-128].ROM) = 20c3b24f81f3a3fb7129c211151830e9
MD5 (1993 Q:C610 Q610CD F1A6F343 [7.1-8.1 4-68].ROM) = 94017d3dd800f1ac5aed2e10462fcd45
MD5 (1993 Q:C650 Q800 F1ACAD13 [7.1-8.1 4-136].ROM) = 69489153dde910a69d5ae6de5dd65323
MD5 (1994 LC630 P630 Q630 06684214 [7.1-8.1 4-68].ROM) = af343f3f1362bf29cefd630687efaa25
MD5 (1994 PB150 FDA22562 [7.1.1-7.6.1 4-40].ROM) = 579c3c085153c042bbbaa8392e901dbd
MD5 (1994 PB520,520c,540,540c B6909089 [7.1.1-8.1 4-36].ROM) = ee1e6e11da88ed70014d0adda916b919
MD5 (1994 PBD280,280c 015621D7 [7.1-8.1 4-40].ROM) = 9035624c90bc53b5fe12722974e51053
MD5 (1994 PM6100,7100,8100 9FEB69B3 [7.1.2PPCE-9.1 8-136].ROM) = b40998471e33d802b350f699127e36df
MD5 (1994 WS9150:80 9C7C98F7 [7.1.2-7.5.1SE?,7.5.3-9.1 16-520].ROM) = 992b36209d478fa5cc1e7f3a3a462c18
MD5 (1995 LC:P580 P588 064DC91D [7.5-8.1 4-52].ROM) = d62ca2efcefb3e2d59a2f6756692c441
MD5 (1995 PB190,190cs 4D27039C [7.5.2-8.1 4-40].ROM) = 6b03262345c44778543199091ecee7d1
MD5 (1995 PBD2300,5x00 PPCUpgrade 83C54F75 [7.5.2PBE5300-9.1 8-56].ROM) = d42c0a7386a345a008883be07beb0a64
MD5 (1995 PM7100 (newer) 9B7A3AAD [7.1.2-9.1 8-136].ROM) = 6355d8c6841591e284853f878b99720a
MD5 (1995 PM7200,7500,8500,9500 v1 96CD923D [7.5.2 SE701-9.1 512-1.5GB].rom) = dfebb8fdad4124e02608429d98bf349b
MD5 (1995 PM7200-90,7500-100,Clones v2 9630C68B [7.5.2 SE701-9.1 512-1.5GB].ROM) = 2623a0c438045ea04d2cc67310c97743
MD5 (1995 PM:P5200,5300,6200,6300 63ABFD3F [7.5.1SE406-9.1 8-64].ROM) = f841c66c2e94bf1872959fed0d69cc65
MD5 (1995 WS9150-120 9B037F6F [7.1.2-7.5.1SE?,7.5.3-9.1 16-520].ROM) = f08ad7ba1d8435ecfa24282aab1e0eb0
MD5 (1996 Bandai Pippin (Kinka 1.0) 2BEF21B7 [7.5.3P 6-14 VGA].ROM) = d0eb08a7375b7fff78f5e14574364ac4
MD5 (1996 Bandai Pippin (Kinka Dev) 2BF65931 [7.5.3P 6-14 VGA].ROM) = 318e40f6a1f47925876eb64cc18c9ede
MD5 (1996 P6400,6410,6420 6F5724C0 [7.5.3 SE410v1.1-9.1 8-136].ROM) = cdc2b21a8991193b856e5a92c6df5c06
MD5 (1996 PB1400c,1400cs 83A21950 [7.5.2PBE1400-9.1 12-64].ROM) = d78e3715e0dd30cd6174bdda747222eb
MD5 (1997 PM6500 6E92FE08 [7.5.3 SE410-9.1 8-136].ROM) = 670f3d04b8844cf89aae4391398d4b5c
MD5 (1997 PM7300,7600,8600,9600 v1 960E4BE9 [7.5.5SE702-9.1 512-1.5GB].ROM) = edcf3422d712f61f83c07efc2401cbb8
MD5 (1997 PM8600, 9600 v2 960FC647 [7.5.5-9.1 32-1GB].ROM) = 88d7bec4daa28028c1fd311cf89ef8ab
MD5 (1997 PM9700 Proto (bad dump) 46001F1B [7.5.5-9.1].ROM) = 5e0f52e66117fb29dba9d7031c80f1ff
MD5 (1998 PBG3Wallstreet,PDQ v1 B46FFB63 [8.0-10.2.8 32-512].ROM) = 01a80c4452c8cdf385e11bd973b44f58
MD5 (1998 PBG3Wallstreet,PDQ v2 CBB01212 [8.1-10.2.8 64-512].ROM) = 738ae2b8394d2fe9cd3d39012458e756
MD5 (1998 PMG3Desktop 79D68D63 [8.0-10.2.8 64-192].ROM) = b8612cc39a56d141feade9dc6361ba20
MD5 (1998 PowerPC (New World 1.2.0) [8.5.1].rom) = 3756f699eadaabf0abf8d3322bed70e5
MD5 (1998 PowerPC (New World 1.2.1) [8.5.1 iMac Update 1.1].rom) = eca81482d307aa5d811aed9e825b1599
MD5 (1999 PMG3v3 78F57389 [8.5.1-10.4.11 128-1GB].ROM) = 616d792ee6e2877c5c8faf30b6c56fe8
MD5 (1999 PowerPC (New World 1.4) [8.6].rom) = 1bf445c27513dba473cca51219184b07
MD5 (1999 PowerPC (New World 1.6) [8.6].rom) = be65e1c4f04a3f2881d6e8de47d66454
MD5 (2000 PowerPC (New World 3.8) [9.0.4].rom) = 3f182e059a60546f93114ed3798d5751

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I've got a ROM image I made from my 266MHz PowerMac G3 Minitower before it died. Sad
It says "78FDB784" at the start, which is different to the two PowerMac G3 ROMs currently listed on the "app" page. Should I upload that one?

I've also got another ROM image I use with SheepShaver, downloaded from somewhere, so I'm not sure which Mac it's from, but it comes up as "3C434852", but just after that the ASCII text says: "iMac,1 PowerMac1,1 PowerBook1,1" and "MacROM for NewWorld", so it could be a 'corrupted' ROM made especially to work in SheepShaver which has extra information at the start.

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You could include the G3 Minitower's to the app page. Thanks.

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I'm getting an "access denied" page when I click on the ROM page's Edit link, so I can't add a new upload. Sad The Edit link on a few other pages I just tested seem to be working okay though. Logging out and back in doesn't fix it.

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Looks like its another one of "those pages". I can't see any reason why you can't add an item to the page. We've struck a few of these in recent weeks. I'll get back to you on this.

[Edit] If you don't mind, try adding it to this ResCompare page and I'll try moving to the correct page either later this evening or in the morning

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Did you click the "Revisions" links by accident perhaps? The page hasn't been edited since it's creation and you will get an "access denied" error message when clicking a revisions link on unmodified pages (even for me and I created the page!).

If not, then can you try posting it up to the ResCompare page (linked above) and I'll try moving it from there into the correct location shortly afterwards. Thanks.

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I've upload the PowerMac G3 Minitower ROM image to that ResCompare page, which worked fine.

Nope. Definitely the Edit link that gives me an 'Access Denied' error in both Safari and Chrome.

Strangely, I also tried in Firefox (no proxy servers or anything), but the whole MacintoshGarden.org website just gives me a 403 error:

Error 403

We're sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for / on this server.

You do not have permission to access this server. Before trying again, run anti-virus and anti-spyware software and remove any viruses and spyware from your computer.

Your technical support key is: 2f31-93fd-2b02-1b1f

You can use this key to fix this problem yourself.

If you are unable to fix the problem yourself, please contact admin at macintoshgarden.org and be sure to provide the technical support key shown above.

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Thanks, I've made the transfer OK.

I don't know why it was a no go for you with this one, sorry. I'll pass it on to fogWraith and see if he can shed some light on it. Thanks again.

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Have you checked this page?

https://www.macintoshrepository.org/7038-all-macintosh-roms-68k-ppc-?ns=1

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@semvalidade2006: Thanks. But please, avoid publish links from this website, as guys from there are not really welcome here... You can however upload missing software here from their site. Tongue

@MTT: I have tested it myself. I obtain the same "access denied" drupal message error if I wanna modify the page previously mentioned. Looks like there are some pages on the site only accessible for limited persons. I presume that only admins can access them. I hope that fogWraith could resolve that strange behavior from the servers, if so. Wink

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Hi MacTouch. Thanks for looking at the page. It is indeed a strange issue and we're seeking an answer to why it is occurring and then hopefully fix it.

Of those we've come across that exhibit this behavior; The only solution to date has been to create a fresh page, move the content from the problem page into it, then remove the old page. It's not ideal. Fortunately so far this issue has been a rare occurrence.

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Hi Mike & thank you. I don't know if it is relevant or if it could help, but I've noticed that when attempting to edit this page, I can see the link "/node/13702/edit" & with Vampire Castle, I get "/node/1302/edit". Also, I guess if it could interfere with some forum pages as this kind of pages are not editable by anybody except an admin & the author...

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Hi MacTouch. Alas no. You will see "/node/n*/edit" on any page you try to edit. It's the page code name representing the page you are editing (or attempting to). So when done, the correct page is updated.

It's a very rare thing with only a handful of instances occurring, that we know of. It does seem to involve admin privileges having precedence where they shouldn't. Puzzled

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I've created my own spreadsheet at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wB2HnysPp63fezUzfgpk0JX_b7bXvmAg... - not quite the same contents as the official one here.

Also, feel free to peruse my test image set at https://github.com/adespoton/MacROMan/tree/master/TestImages -- you'll find it maps well to the spreadsheet (I've got missing data highlighted in red and missing files in grey).

Feel free to include what you want from all that data here. The one ROM I'm curious about that's missing there is New World ROM 3.2.1 -- I can't figure out what OS it shipped on, or for what hardware; everything I know of either used ROM 3.1.1 or 3.5. Someone here must have more info about it, as it was added to the spreadsheet.

[edit] I'm still stumped; the PMG4 came out in October with 3.1.1, the 3.2.1 ROM is date stamped November, and the next Mac out is the Pismo the next February, which came with 3.5.

I even checked the developer releases; 9.0.1f1 came out in January with ROM 3.4, so we're dealing with a real 9.0 release here, but not one that came out with any particular hardware release - must have been an international refresh. But I checked Japan, China, Italy, Germany, Spain and the Netherlands; they all have the 3.1.1 or 3.0 ROM.

[edit] Found it... it's the Power Mac G4 (AGP) restore CD for 9.0Z (International).

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Potential modification for the list: 8fd9c829342fa76213e7efbad2a80823 is listed as being "Power Mac G3 (v2)" but in reality, it's the Beige G3 Minitower, which appears to be unique. G3 v2 is 9cc0e3e01bb02691b497d792ea3e9403 by my records which your list has as v4. Of course, I could be convinced otherwise..

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So, I noticed this in Tech Note #138:

The Japanese Macintosh Plus has the Kanji 12 and 18 point fonts in ROM [...] Note that the Japanese Macintosh is unique; Apple has not produced other foreign versions of the Macintosh for different scripts. The introduction of the Arabic Interface System, for example, did not include an Arabic ROM version.

Has this ROM variant ever been dumped? I don't see any mention of it in the chart, or anywhere else online that early Mac ROMs are catalogued.

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TattleTech on my Mac Plus (purchased second-hand in Japan) reports:

  • ROM Attributes :
    • ROM Size = 131,072 Bytes
    • ROM Version = $75 (117)
      • ROM is Universal = No
      • ROM is 32 Bit Clean = No
    • ROM Sub-Version = $6000
    • ROM CheckSum = $4D1EEAE1
    • ROM Start = $004000000

So it appears to be a plain Mac Plus v2 ROM ($4D1EEAE1). However, I don’t know if the rest matches, and I don’t know if it’s really a “Japanese Mac” as I don’t know what route it took before arriving in my possession.

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Can you actually open up the Mac Plus and take a photo of the ROMs?

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i got excited when i saw this post.. but then i realized you are talking about the macosRom files for each specific mac?

i am far more interested in PCI Addon hardware roms that are mac compatible
i would very much like to see a community effort of collecting Vendor/device id's + bios ROM firmwares

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Cross-posted from emaculation:

Still missing ROMs:

* Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh (codename Spartacus) - the PowerMac 5500 ROM - a dump from any PM5500 or TAM would work. I've got the same file hash listed for the PM 6500 ROM that others have listed as the 5500. I think it was a typo though, and we're still missing the 5500, as the Gestalt ID is different.

* PowerBook 2400c (codename Comet) - uses PowerBook 2400 ROM: b00e5ea090e0627c01930fd2f0ceffcd

* PowerBook 3400c (codename Hooper) - possibly also uses the PowerBook 2400 ROM, but the gestalt ID is different. These two probably need fresh dumps just to be sure what's what.

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Japanese Mac ROMs in general are also missing, right? IIRC, Japan is the only other region with its own ROMs.

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That is correct. I don't see any Japanese Mac ROMs available. That said, regions outside of the US and Europe are generally unaccounted for.

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I just did a quick search in Japanese, and oddly can't even find websites discussing ROM dumps for Apple products other than iPhones. I sure remember discussion back in the late 90s, and Takky and others were doing a great job of dumping 1990-era ROMs -- but these were pretty much the same as the European and North American ones.

I seem to recall that most of the discussion happened via email and usenet back then though, not WWW. Is it possible due to cultural differences, the ROM dumps are just stored in a format that's not indexed?