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Pippin anybody?

Could someone please upload a Pippin (game) CD?
I would like to try one with my PPC7100 and with SheepShaver.
Thanks in advance!

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Pippin games suck and are rare. What did you have in mind? Racing Days comes to mind, but it's nothing spectacular.

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The object of the game would not matter much. I would rather try if something can be run at all with a old PPC or eventually SheepShaver. The Pippin stuff came with everything on CD and was said to run on Macs of that time and even 68k machines.
A member at Emaculation started a topic and made me curious, I have to admit.
If the media would work, I might consider a donation over there:
http://www.theoldcomputer.com/roms/index.php?folder=Apple/Pippin/Various
although the most items are Japanese, not German Smile

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The only one I can think of that would be worth a look is Victorian Park. But it's all in Japanese and is 2CDs so it's kinda big. On the plus side it's 68k-compatible too though it was a little sluggish on my LC III.

Gadget, L-Zone and TropicIsland are already here in their Mac versions and Super Marathon doesn't work on Macs. Shockwave (Assault) does work but it probably wouldn't be allowed due to the EA ban. Racing Days is pretty poor. Tunin'Glue is neat but has timing issues if the CPU is much faster than the Pippin (66Mhz). Also figuring out the controls is a nightmare. This is another 68k-compatible game.

There's a a few Gundam and tokusatsu games but again they're all in Japanese. After that you're into kids stuff, licensed graphic-type apps like Anime Designer and multimedia CDROM junk. The system is a lot more interesting than it's software base, alas.

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What would be a working sheepshaver configuration? I once tried one of the gundam games, but it hanged after the title.

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Would it be possible to actually install the Pippin version of Sys 7 on a 68k/PPC machine? If so it might be easier to run the other stuff, methinks…

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The Pippin ran 7.5.2 so either that or 7.5.3 will run some games. Just make sure to run in 640x480 and 256 colours as that's what the games will expect. For Quicktime you can copy the Quicktime extensions from the Pippin disc's system folder. Some of the games will run on higher systems, but it's no harm to try to keep as close to the original system as possible.

You can also copy the StartupScreen image from the Pippin's system folder to your own to get the Pippin boot logo.

The Pippin system software won't run on a Mac. The System file is designed for the Pippin and the ROM contained extra drivers (such as CDROM). That's why you can't just boot a Pippin game like a regular MacOS disc. Perhaps with some major hacking it could be patched, but I don't think anyone has ever tried that. Sheepshaver won't boot a Pippin ROM image.

Some games will ask for a file called PippinPPCLib (Super Marathon, T Break and TropicIsland come to mind). IIRC it was on the SDK disc (which is available here) but adding it still didn't get those games running for me.

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There is a PippinPPCLib download link at the bottom of this page:
http://www.macgeek.org/museum/pippin/faq.html
But like you pointed out already, its the road to nowhere, unfortunately.

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Yeah I tried T Break and TropicIsland on my 7500 with the PippinPPC file. The apps launched and then quit with a Type 12 error. MESS is probably the best chance of getting these games running once they get things running.

There's still quite a few undumped Pippin discs. I'd love to try out CineNoir.

What speed is your 7100? If it's a 66 it might be able to run Tunin'Glue. I'd like to upload at least something for you to try but like I said, it's just a struggle to find a good Pippin game. At least TG is small.

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It is a 7100/80AV, but I would like to try Tunin'Glue of course, if its not too uncomfotable for you uploading it. A problem might be the monitor. My Apple CRT died long ago and I am using an old Siemens MCF3512TA hardwired to 1024x768 with an adapter.
There must be a Sony 640x480 still on the attic. Should I start searching?

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I think it'll run centered on a 1024x768 display. It's up now.

I tried it in Sheepshaver at 800x600 in millions of colours and it ran "fine" (albeit too fast) so you should be OK.

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Thank, you!
I´ll try soon. Do you think there is something like "SpeedThrottle" for SheepShaver or its hosts?
Usually we want every app to act as fast as possible Smile
Do you mind posting your link at Emaculation too? Or should we rely on the search engines?

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I haven't tried throttling Sheepshaver but I guess it could be possible.

If you want to post the link over on emaculation that's fine. There was a guy who had dozens of Pippin games for download on his site (hosted from his iDisk) but he's since taken them down. I guess the bandwidth usage would have been pretty high.

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Just as an FYI, burned games, including Japanese ones, work fine on a real Pippen.

There's a project at underground gamers to build a Pippen torrent, we've got a large number covered (I dumped a few for it as well!) 88 items and 14GB.

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Hi, I posted about this at E-Maculation too (Hi 24bit!)... someone posted that they managed to get Super Marathon running on a Mac as so...

"Doesn't work on Macintosh, even with the PippinPPCLib extension found in the SDK you just get an error message that says 'This game is only for the Pippin.'"

"you have to copy the system folder over with the extension.
i made a powerpc 333mhz a pippin, EVERY game runs,k,l,i,n is jpad up down left righ in most games, would be great if mac os 8/9 had a KEYBOARD to joystick mapper"

Does anyone know if the claims made here are true? Is it possible to make a partition that will run every game, including Super Marathon which was only supposed to run on the real hardware?