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Personal Web Space Request Question

I apologize if this isn't the correct place to put this. I sent an email yesterday requesting a web space account and I remembered that in the FAQ it requested that I give the username I want. I didn't say anything about that in the email. Should I send another, revised, email or wait for a reply on the one I sent?

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I was just about to get to that letter (been a few hectic days) Smile
Please do send a revised email with your desired username and I'll have it resolved very soon.

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Ok, thank you! I'll do that right now Smile

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I'm going to piggyback off of my last question for this. I'm trying to upload stuff via PageMill and it won't work. I looked in the FTP log and it says "Operation not Permitted" when trying to upload files. What's odd is that I can upload files via Fetch just fine.

Do you know what's causing issues?

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My guess would be that the application is trying to upload into / instead of /Home/

I'm unfamiliar with how Pagemill works, but the location for your publically available files would be /Home/www/ and not / or /www/

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Yeah, that's what it tries to do if I just specify /www/ as my starting directory. I have it set to /Home/www/ though. I think it might be "Home/www/" ad not "/Home/www" however. Would that first / make a difference at all?

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Many applications work differently though the function is the same.
/Home/www/ would in this case use the initial / as the very root and should therefore behave correctly.
If the application moved into a different directory, say Home, and you have the application set push files to Home/www/ it could take the working directory and try to push into the Home/www folder from there... so /Home/Home/www/

Is the result the same regardless of the settings you try?
And what version of PageMill? I'd like to test some myself Smile

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I’d say the problem remains largely constant, yes. I can try “/Home/www/“ again when I get back to my Power Mac. It’s version 3 of PageMill. Smile

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I installed PageMill 3 and went ahead to test with my own account, wouldn't you know it... same errors regardless of the settings provided. (logs make no sense either)

So I went ahead and tried DreamWeaver as well as the built in publishing tool in Netscape 3.04 Gold, worked without a hitch that way. PageMill isn't doing something right apparently

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Ok, thanks for testing! Do you know of the best program to use in OS 9 to edit webpages and push it to the server via FTP? I have a basic knowledge of it but I'm not well-versed by any means, so something PageMill-like would be nice.

Either a new program to edit the existing pages I've designed and push them or something that could push changes and I could still use PageMill to edit would be fine.

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I have a tiny little setup on my Lombard, running OS 8.6, and it works great for me.

DreamWeaver 3 for designing weird looking tables, could be used for imagemaps and other things... it's a fairly decent and easy to use wysiwyg editor.
BBEdit 6.5 is the editor I use most of the time for both PHP and HTML.
Photoshop 6 for some light editing and creation of images.

Classilla 9.3.3 as well as Netscape 3.04 Gold and Internet Explorer 4.01 for testing my creations.
And to send files off to the server, I use Transmit 1.6, which allows me to create and edit server bookmarks, connect to said servers and transfer files in a very easy way.

Now, I have even older hardware that I sometimes write HTML / PHP on, the Macintosh Classic is networked and has internet access, which I use both Fetch and and earlier version of BBEdit. The SE/30, well I can just connect to the AFP share and edit files in place, drag and drop etc.

The AFP feature is available for the personal space hosting, and works on systems well below OS 9, so that's also a viable option Smile

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Ok, thank you! I guess I'll use AFP to transfer stuff to the site, as that is something I can set up a file sync relationship with using my backup program. Smile

I might use PageMill, but I might switch to DreamWeaver depending on how I like it when I try it out.