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Penguin Pop?

I have this small game that I've had backed up for years. The filename is "pwrmacp".
It's a simple 'whack a mole' type of game where you have to hit the penguins that pop up from hiding, but try not to hit the decoys.
But I don't know what the official name is. I can't access the About section, or if there even is one.
Anyone know?

Here are a few images I took of it and its information.

Weapon select:
http://oi66.tinypic.com/3142iy0.jpg

Main game:
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2cz68i1.jpg

Info:
http://oi68.tinypic.com/dmxkrp.jpg

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That looks like one of the MANY Penguin-based Flash games around, and bazillions more Flash games of other types. Technically not a "Mac game" as such (so hence no "About" menu item), although some of them do come in Mac wrappers so that they can be run by themselves rather than needing to be run within Flash Player or a web browser. I have a few of these Flash games, but I don't know if they're wanted here or not.

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This game's engine is Macromedia Director, not Flash, and we have several games here that do use Director, so if one more comes here, is not likely to hurt Smile

Actually, I think it would be good if it was added so we can get a closer look at it. TJgamer, if you make a page for it, you can title it what you want and if we do discover the actual name for this mystery game, it can be changed to it easily.

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Here we are:
http://macintoshgarden.org/games/penguin-pop
Let me know if there are any problems or anything else needed.

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Thanks. No definite answers to the name of this game, but I did locate a "David C. Lovelace" & "Cute Co." mentioned, when viewing the raw code.

A David C. Lovelace (cartoonist) does have a web presence and he also has a page for Mac games that he's created using Shockwave. His cartoon style does have some similarity to this game. Whether he is the author of your Penguin Pop tho' I couldn't say. Its just a possibility.

A couple of notes about your upload. As you used Mac OS X zip to archive, it is only (safely) extractable on Mac OS X and not the intended platform, which cannot use this proprietary zip format (OS X zip preserves a classic file's resource forks in a way that only Mac OS X can restore safely when unzipping).

The game isn't Basilisk II or 68k Mac compatible. There is a small portion of 68k code in the game's player engine that allows the Macromedia Director player inform a user that the game is only playable on PPC Mac and can then exit gracefully (without crashing). It does play OK on SheepShaver.

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I updated the compatibility information.
Interesting finds on Mr. Lovelace, by the way.
What format do you recommend I upload this?

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Thanks.
If possible, make an archive using a classic Mac OS 9 or earlier (SheepShaver is fine for this).
Place the game into an empty folder (with additional notes about the game, if desired).
Name the folder something suitable, e.g.; "Penguin Pop".
Use Disk Copy 6.3 to create an image file of the folder, e.g.; "penguin-pop.img"
Use Aladdin DropStuff v5.5 (direct DL from here), to compress the .img to .sit
Upload the .sit to the page.

Any issues, ask. p.s. I can do this for you, if you'd prefer.

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You can do it if you don't mind. I'm not too confident with my limited knowledge.
I can try figuring it out for myself if you don't want to do it.

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No problem. I've added the game to the page. Also I added a comment in page "untested in Classic Mac OS X", as I haven't tried playing this in Classic mode. So if you can play it in Classic please remove the comment.

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Oh dang, looks like someone else knows about this game. Or at least knows as much as I do... I happened to stumble across this on a backup DVD from 15 years ago back when I was a youngin' and had a real Mac. Except it was called "macpeng", but it's definitely the same game. Good to know others are just as confused as I am as to its origin.

I should probably find some kind of checksum utility for Mac to see if these two are identical or different versions of the same game... or poke around in the resource fork to see if I can find anything.

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Nothing in the resource fork. Not wanting to give up though, I copied the file back into my Linux host and ran the strings command on the data fork and the resource fork.

So let's see what we have here:
Data https://pastebin.com/6ueXTck6
Resource https://pastebin.com/fA6q3yqM

At first glance there's a lot of garbage, but maybe if I dig deeper...

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Now this is getting somewhere:
David C. Lovelace - Cute Co.)Banzai the Bearable - Cuteness Epitomized

Looks like the guesses of this involving David C. Lovelace earlier in the thread may have been on to something! Doesn't necessarily mean he made the game though, could have just used his art and got credited. But it's something!

No idea what "Banzai the Bearable" is though, Google doesn't say anything.

The only other things I can see (in the data fork at least) that might be of significance:
VAULT:Desktop Folder:penguin.dirRIFX
=prelimbeginstartgamelooploserwinnerPenguins on strike striken
Schmooze.Peguin
Disgruntled PenguinsCASt

Is there such a thing as a Macromedia Projector decompiler? If there is, I'm thinking it may be useful here.

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Here's something else I found:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvkyv9lg2x0

Stay Tooned! is a game animated by David C. Lovelace, in 1996 (same as the creation date), and made in Macromedia Director...

Listen closely to the background music starting at 1:09 in that video. It's the same as the macpeng/pwrmacp in-game music.

I'd be willing to bet this is either part of the game that is for some reason standalone (and was released as such, explaining why I have it and haven't heard of Stay Tooned until now), or it's some kind of spinoff.

There's more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VNtw1tnQDA at 9:32, the penguin sprite on the slot machine is exactly the same as the one in this game.

Edit: Found it!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzVklGVUdjo 5:04

It's slightly different in that in Stay Tooned, there's ice over the score counter, and there's no "IN" sign on the igloo, and less animations in general.

Someone else seems to have played this standalone version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJISqE1WsAQ

They don't provide any information other than gameplay footage, but we know that the game title is definitely "Pop a Penguin".

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Aha! AHA! AHA!!!!!!

https://web.archive.org/web/19971021172152/http://funnybone.davd.com:80/...

If we go to that Pop-A-Penguin page here, it'll show us two interesting things (and a Windows version)! A Mac version with the filename being "macpeng.sit" and a Power Mac version with the filename "pwrmacp.sit". This explains everything!

I'll go clean up the game page now, if nobody minds...

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Yep, please do (and I see that you already have, so thanks). Thanks also for your in-depth sleuthing to get to the bottom of what the history of this game was all about and its origins. Good work.

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About the Original Post (a year ago), the arcade console is/was spelled "Whac-A-Mole" - we all spell it wrong. Was there even electronics in it? The Moles were powered by, um, compressed air...