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Original iMac to Mac SE?

I found a neighbor whom has one of the original iMacs. The kind that have the 'berry colors'. Is it possible to use one of those to transfer software onto my Mac SE?

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CD-ROMs: if the iMac got a burner and the SE got a reader.
Network/AppleTalk over another Macintosh: some Powermacs got both ADB and Ethernet; 7200/7500/8500/9500 and more.
Floppies: if you have an USB floppy for the iMac.

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Be carefull with the floppy method. The SE I had way back when, had an 800k floppy. With that kind of a drive, reading disks made in a PC floppy drive, 800k or not, where impossible. Unless you get an USB drive that can read and write the mac 800k disks, you may be sunk. I don't know if any exist. I am assuming you don't have an SE with the 1.4 Superdrive. If you did, then the iMac would be cool, but superfoulus.

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An iMac is rather "new" from the SE´s point of view. No ADB, no serial port, no SCSI...
I guess the most promising option would indeed be finding a SCSI CD-ROM for the SE.

- Null modem via serial to any other box with a serial port may be an option.

- AppleTalk to another vintage Mac was easy, but you´ll need those Apple Talk dongles.
- There are some interesting devices for mounting CF cards and else on the SCSI bus (Amiga and Mac).
http://a4000t.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&produc...
- If you can take out the SE´s HDD, you can write to the drive with a SCSI-Mac or SCSI-PC running BasiliskII build 142.
- Last, but not least bigmessowires´s floppy emulator: http://68kmla.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17287
Thats about all, I can think of atm.

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Sounds incredibly complicated. . . Sad
I'll wait until I can hook up this older iMac and then fill the experts in on what's happening.

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The easiest way to get the SE on ethernet would probably be a SCSI ethernet adapter. Then you could use plain ole Appleshare to exchange files between it and the iMac.

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A null modem cable should not be too complicated.
Of course you will need another computer with serial port and terminal software for SE and the other box.
I soldered such cables myself, many years ago - no problem.
Here is another picture how to: http://www.ccr-computerclub.de/lam2/nullmod.htm
Sorry its German again, but Google will have that in English as well.

The iMac will only be an option as you find a SCSI to Ethernet adapter, probably hard to find these days.

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The best thing I found to transfer files and internet content to an old compact Mac is with Zip cartridges. I have one SCSI Zip drive hooked up to my Mac Plus, and one USB Zip drive that I can hook to any more recent Mac or to a Linux box on the network. The same cartridge mounts without problem in Basilisk under Linux on the USB port, and is recognized right away in the SCSI Zip on the Mac Plus. Zip drives go for no more than about $20 on eBay. Works great for me.

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yeah, yoyomac's Zip suggestion has come up before and is the easiest and cheapest solution available to you - you need a USB zip drive and a SCSI zip drive, maybe even a single zip drive with both connectors and cables, about $2 on eBay or equivalent.

It would also cost you nothing to search on eBay or equivalent for the Farallan iPrint adapter. Made for those early iMac G3's (although it'll work on any Ethernet Mac) so they could connect to the older LocalTalk printers, they also worked perfectly allowing LocalTalk Macs to network with Ethernet Macs, I still use mine to connect my SE FD/HD and other old Macs to my G4's. I've seen them come up a few times on eBay, but they fetched over £100 UK, about the same as the original cost.

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yoyomac, this may be a bit off topic, but I´m still clueless what to put in excactly in the BII SCSI pane with GNU/Linux.
Would you mind telling me your input data or even better a screenshot for mounting a device?
I know, I can mount HFS read/write with the host, but thats not my goal.

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24bit: as for having the Zip (USB) recognized in Basilisk2, you don't need to specify anything in the 'SCSI' tab. Just add a line with the device file your Linux box is using in the 'Volumes' tab. In my case I have:

/home/yoyomac/vmac/mac_hd.dsk ---> your MacOS volume file
/dev/sdb4 ---> USB device file, to remain unmounted

The trick is to not have the Zip mounted on the Linux desktop otherwise BII is going to complain about the device being busy. Also depending on your permission settings, you may have to call BII as root, or use sudo BII.