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Old EDMARK Educational Games On Floppy Images?

I intend to teach my kid on the same computer & games that I learned on in my early childhood, but I've run into a snag: I have long since lost the discs that came with my Color Classic.

Here and elsewhere online, I've only been able to find the CD-ROM images of the educational games Millie's Math House, Sammy's Science House, and Bailey's Book House. These will not fit on my Mac's old 80 MB hard drive. I recall that the non-CD versions fit just fine, being only a few megabytes large each. I'd rather not use my external drive for these games, as its bearings are so bad that it sounds like a dental drill combined with shattering glass.

The only EDMARK game I found here from my early-childhood that fits on my old drive as-is is the Thinkin' Things Collection (4 MB).

Does anyone have the floppy images of the first versions of these programs that they'd be willing to upload? Thanks.

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Installer floppies are now available for Millie's Math House and Bailey's Book House. Smile

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Awesome, thanks! By chance, would you happen to have Sammy's Science House as well? I really appreciate the other two even if you don't.

Daxeria's picture
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Le Grenier du Mac has a 7 MB download of the French language version: Sammy, la maison des sciences. I'll let you know if I find an English equivalent.

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I wish there were a language option on those old programs. Thank you for looking, I appreciate it.

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When you were a child, the Color Classic looked, performed and smelt new. Now, it's gonna be a quite a different experience for your child if you think about it...

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As long as it works, which it does. Logic and analog boards have been recapped. It's definitely not platinum colored anymore, though. Lol.

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Different experience here. My kids love the Macintosh LC even though they know it's "daddy's old computer". It's less intimidating than modern stuff and makes a great beginner's computer.

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Yeah; my kids love playing with my old kit. They feel like they're free to experiment and do odd things, and it's not going to do something like wipe our financial data or destroy a mission critical app.

But as soon as they run up against performance issues, they're more than happy to download and run software on the main family computer xP

I do wish I still had my old Takky Colour Classic still....

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Just make sure your kids aren't TOO experimental like I was at an early age: I ruined my dad's Atari ST floppy drive by sticking a quarter into it, and did the same with my mom's college Color Classic with a paper clip. Destroyed the heads in both, and I was 2 and 3 years old respectively. Thankfully, my mom's had AppleCare, so a new drive was installed. That's why I still have it now.

I used to have a Takky-like setup, although I did it without altering the case at all. What I did was more of a Mystic-PowerMac kind of thing. I stuck a Performa 575 logic board into another Color Classic, got an LC PowerPC upgrade card, altered the Sony tube to accept 640x480, and had an external CD burner hooked up. Sadly I no longer own this setup, but it was a nice, speedy little compact PowerMac.

Out of the two, I am glad I kept the one I have for sentimental reasons, and I will definitely not be altering it in any way. Compromised system bus, sub-640 resolution, and 10 MB max RAM didn't bother me as a child, and I'll be damned if I let it bother my kids either. lol

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Well... that's a way to make me feel old Laughing out loud

At one point I had the altered trace to do the 640x480 plus a Sonnett expansion board to boost RAM to 32 MB and the CPU to a 68040. That 10MB max RAM bothered ME, and even RAM Doubler wasn't enough to compensate in some situations. I remember in 1994 my gift to myself was a 2x CD-ROM SCSI drive. It meant I was finally able to use those magazine CD-ROMs....

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I suppose it didn't bother me because I was like... 3 years old or so when my mom had me learn with Edmark games on her Color Classic. What's the need for a speedy Mac to a toddler? Lol. I was just fascinated by it because it was a computer, period.

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I've uploaded the English floppy version of Sammy's Science House.

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Thanks, much appreciated.

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Does the OS you are running support and external CD-ROM?
I've got several lying around.
The CD version of those programs require no disk space except for maybe tracking individual users.

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Yeah, it does. I have the CD-ROM extension, as well as an AppleCD 300e Plus. However, I don't have a lot of space, so having an external CD drive constantly sit next to my Mac would be cumbersome, despite it being a compact Mac. Thank you for the suggestion, though.

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Won't it fit underneath?

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You also have the option of using SCSI2SD to upgrade your internal drive to 2-4GB.
There's also https://www.redrocktech.com/products/replacement-guide-scsi-drives, but I don't have any experience with their products.

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I'd rather not replace the hard drive. It's original with the system and is in surprisingly good shape, and I would prefer not to tempt fate. Now that I have the floppy versions of the programs I was looking for, it's all been figured out. I appreciate your advice, though. I might use that SD solution for other projects.