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Non bootable bin files (apple mac os 6.0.2-7.5.2 Greek Lang)

Good evening I discovered the problem because the file does not boot. The reason is that these files are in bin format so the program cannot recognize them as a floppy disk. How can i convert them to img and bootble ?
end in .bin
The program (Mini vMac) cannot recognize them and read them as an img boot disk.
The archives I downloaded and say are here for you to look for:

https://i.postimg.cc/Qdtzjprr/1-PNG-png-2ffbe41c58e65c4e11dc94f1a318e910...

https://i.postimg.cc/BnVVbXqP/2-png-a2ca1d8bfaf7c375c96e196e66a22c27.png

https://i.postimg.cc/25LXZr6c/3-png-4dbd13e1bfbc80d32c67cfbfca6266ff.png

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BIN files are usually Stuffit encoded - as picture two tells. Wink
The .image files should be mounted by MiniVMac, at least thats true on my side (macOS).

To make use of a random Stuffit encoded file like .bin, .sit, .hqx you want a version of Stuffit or Stuffit Expander to inflate such files again.

There was a reason to deflate Mac files with Stuffit - naked Mac files are damaged when moved over non Macintosh computers. The resource fork of the files are lost, making the files useless on the target Mac.

There are some flavours of Stuffit hosted at Macintoshgarden.
For MiniVMac Stuffit 4.5 is the highest you can go IIRC.
I do prefer unstuffing in SheepShaver with Stuffit 7 as the file handling is much easier that way.
Unstuffing in MiniVMac is doable to of course when using MiniVMac´s ImportFL function.

The first DL here should work for you if you stick with MiniVMac:
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/stuffit-deluxe
ImportFL is here: https://www.gryphel.com/c/minivmac/extras/importfl/

Our System 6 collection has some Greek disk images too, if you would like to try those:
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/system-6-collection

Last not least the Mac Anthology is covering some Greek localized OS as well, System 7 and up:
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-os-anthology-99

If you found a special file of your desire somewhere, best post a link so that we may convert it to something usable for you - if anything else fails. Smile

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I didn't understand very well what my friend would have to do if you could give me the step-by-step instructions so I could understand why I'm so ancient.
Tell me what I need to do to work on the above vmac mini files?
If you can please give me a lot of warmth and images for a better explanation so I was totally lost.
Here are the files I want to run on the vmac mini

https://mega.nz/#F!j5VyiQoI!TVelEjH35Ob-td8nzYd1Rw
https://mega.nz/#F!jhEgjArI!bTxmFunbqNiYF132TxigPQ
https://mega.nz/#F!TocEyYRJ!gDlVfyJUyxokaiZ8_7lN3Q
https://mega.nz/#F!uxdW1SDI!WHtTy-SUMfSwW7P2H4iZVA
https://mega.nz/#F!rpVCia5D!opyGh2mmysqhbMsVgro9SA
https://mega.nz/#F!CsFgUIxa!qYigTPJ0fNSXq30pFKGblw
https://mega.nz/#F!DpckWIrB!GrMg_N8w3UQ986lw3LEB3g
https://mega.nz/#F!i8ciFKbC!0wG9cPgrYPSYTH64V3EwcA
https://mega.nz/#F!j0NGyaAK!3xOtySp-nC8-QKh8nmC9WA
https://mega.nz/#F!e0NyyKba!ENNCbu31gtTKHy4s2ouDqQ
https://mega.nz/#F!GpV2TIia!DNFataf4A9vUGPLBT1q85w
https://mega.nz/#F!zxMExSSR!M-wfLDjn6pJzQVfg4j1d4g
https://mega.nz/#F!GlciBYSJ!yReanjxccWsP6szm4JJ_vw
https://mega.nz/#F!LxcwSQqR!3rN_5bFr7EjCmTZ693JEPQ
https://mega.nz/#F!DoNC0QQI!z-5MsLwZFou18PWaeFzKtw

If you can get them down and you do the switches so they work properly I know it's a lot of trouble but I need your help if you have the kindness. and uploaded the following: https://mega.nz/

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Use Disk Utility to convert to raw disk image

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How? I don't have a mac machine. Please Helppppppppppp mee.

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No panic Cyprus, lets see how we can get things sorted out.
What do you need right now?
Is it a bootable Greek disk image for MiniVMac or something else?
You posted links for System 6 and System 7 - which of them should be handled first?
Do you own a Powerbook or a Power Mac?

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Good evening thank you very much for your good intention to help me.
This is a Greek version for minivmac.
I don't know what to do first.
I don't own a powerbook or power mac.
I downloaded what you gave me for system 7 to see if they would work even though most are in iso and cdr format.

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So I will create a System 6.0.7 Greek boot disk for MiniVMacII for you, but that may need a while.
The files will be in a zip archive on my ISP cloud storage when done.
Please be patient, I may be busy until 20:00 GMT. Smile

On a side note, you could try to set up Basilisk II on your side meanwhile, when you have the Greek MacOS 7.5.
Emaculation.com has a guide for that. https://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5282&sid=abb26a5de...
Use this to get started: https://surfdrive.surf.nl/files/index.php/s/g3bHyqOg1326AXF/download

You may boot Basilisk II from ISO or Toast and install the OS to a blank disk quite easy.

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I wish it was as easy as the vmac mini. In system 7 what do I download from here is the bootable and the boot disk or will it show me the floppy disk icon with the question mark above it and blink?

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Bootable disk images are here, but no Greek so far.
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macos-753-emulators

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Could you create it in Greek please if it is natural Smile
How will I read after the installation of the icons after being in Greek the system I will install?

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I'm waiting for a System 6.0.7 Greek boot disk for MiniVMacII.
Thanks many many.

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Good to thank you so much and so will I be able to install them on my vmac mini right? also the same for the archives i download for system version 7 which is in iso format and in hqx? Will there be more post instructions? from you for the right guidance?

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Sort of, yes.
I can make something usable with MiniVMac later.

On the other hand Basilisk II or SheepShaver may be of more use for you, unless you need System 6.
What kind of computer do you use to run Mac emulation?

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windows 10 pro 64-bit
intel core i3 7100
4gb ram ddr4
amd 460rx

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I am really sorry as I spoke too soon. Sad
I could not manage to create a bootable GR-6.0.7 System disk nor a GR-7.5.3 System disk for MiniVMac II.
The only thing working so far is a GR-7.5.3 boot disk for SheepShaver.

I´m very sorry to disappoint you.
Maybe I got the wrong installers or my missing Greek is the culprit.
You may try MiniVMac II for Windows with an English 6.0.8 boot disk if you wish.
(I know thats not what you were asking for.)
https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/XAmUlZyU
Expand, double click the .exe and drag the .img onto the MiniVMac screen. Thats all.

Of course I can upload GR-7.5.3 for SheepShaver, but you would have to set up the SheepShaver emulator on your side to make use of that.

OS75GR

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Load it for the sheepshaver and I will need to use it 7.5.3 to be good.
What do you mean your Greek was so busy my friend did not understand this piece?
Is it kind of a difficult piece to learn to do, and I (with what version I want) look like in the picture above?

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Just a joke, never learned Greek, so its hit and miss for me. Smile
I got a GR-6.0.7 for MiniVMac (not MiniVMac II) right now working.
I´ll try the image on my Windows 10 rig before uploading.
Would a 1024 X 768 screen be all right for you?

GR607

The picture at #16 is SheepShaver running System GR-7.5.3

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Yes 1024x768. Thank you very much for both.
as soon as the posters are loaded here

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Here it is: https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/sqGUFvzO
Maybe a bit slow on Windows 10 64bit, but working.

Do read the guides for SheepShaver, if you find the time.

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7-5-3 Greek Where is ;
And how do I create a virtual sci drive to install them there?

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Link for GR-7.5.3: https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/iYm0lYLJ
There is no SCSI emulation in SheepShaver.
All virtual disks are treated as huge floppy disks.

You need to install the GTK runtime for the SheepShaver GUI: http://www.emaculation.com/sheepshaver/gtk+-2.10.13-setup.exe
Start with this download:
https://surfdrive.surf.nl/files/index.php/s/eiM6s3UoNN1lMpk/download
Set up SheepShaver with the GUI and add the Greek image to the Volumes tab.
Note that you need the (unzipped) OldWorldROM for 7.5.3: http://www.redundantrobot.com/sheepshaver_files/roms/mac_oldworld_rom4mb...

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Good morning how can I ever create a virtual floppy disk to store the operating system over?
For 7.5.3 will I use sheepshaver only or 6?
Also these iso's which I downloaded here so I can use them in the sheepshaver and read the versions I want to choose?

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The GR-7.5.3 is a bootable disk image for SheepShaver.
SheepShaver "sees" this volume as a huge floppy disk.
You can add other (larger) disk images to the SheepShaver Volumes tab in the GUI.
We have some empty disk images collected here: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/disk-images-emulators
You can install other (Greek) versions of MacOS from the Mac Anthology for SheepShaver up to MacOS 9.0.4.

Did you set up SheepShaver on your Windows 10 PC already?

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Yeah I set it up a bit but I don't know what I put first in the volumes. And how do I proceed with the disks to install the older versions. Can you help me guide me?
Also, some of the archives I downloaded are from a single archive, so what do I mean to use them?

https://i.postimg.cc/15pLNB5Y/image.png

How can I open these files? is there any easy guide so i can open them in the program and proceed with their installation? And more generally the img files I downloaded from here.
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-os-anthology-99

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In the SheepShaver Volumes tab, the OS75-GR.dsk should be on top.
Does SheepShaver boot? Can you see the Greek OS running?
If yes, you can add the .img files from the Anthology DVDs to a large blank new volume.
To do that use the "This PC" volume which gives you access to files on the Windows side.
From large drive for SheepShaver the .img can be mounted with DiskCopy 6 inside SheepShaver.
Finally you can run the installer on the .img to create a new bootable MacOS on another virtual disk.
Thats the general idea.

The .img from the Anthology are not bootable but they can be used to install a fresh MacOS of your choice. You have to look through the DVDs (or the DiskTracker file) to find the desired .img, zero byte files are just place holders in the volume structure and useless for you.

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OS 7 5 GREEK I see it working happily. now my issue is with the files i downloaded from here is some img how can i install them and how do i create a new mac os disk in the program? i've downloaded 120GB.img_ and don't know what to do. Do I have to put on top of any img file of my choice or do I have to do something else before that? sometimes the images:

http://i.postimg.cc/nhxskJ9x/image.png

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I see.
SheepShaver can not run System 7.1 (second line in your picture).
The 120 GB image is a bz2 compressed file, which must be expanded with 7Zip on Windows before adding it to Volumes.
When you got that, start SheepShaver again.
The Mac System will ask, whether the new drive shall be initialised - click yes.
That will give you a 120GB virtual disk to play around with.

All .sit, hqx or .bin Mac files must be moved to the 120GB Mac disk to be expanded or run there.
.IMG files from the Anthology can be added to Volumes as additional device.
In general smaller disk images of two to six GB may be better as the Mac HFS file system is not efficient on large volumes.
Remember that we had 120 Mega Byte hard disks those days.
With the use of HFS+ (HFS Extended) and MacOS 8.1 or higher large volumes are all right.

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I downloaded the 120g disk image from the link you gave me, I didn't know which one to download and so I chose the larger one.
The problem now is that the 120gb disk image I downloaded is not being compressed. What should I do ;
It doesn't even open with 7zip..

https://i.postimg.cc/L6NPHV9f/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/h4VbqxQb/2.png

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Edit 16:04:

The 120gb image may be problematic. Anyway I downloaded the rest and unzipped a character:

1) https://i.postimg.cc/0N03yQQb/image.png
2) https://i.postimg.cc/9MXkRhR1/2.png
What am I doing please?

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7Zip should handle the files like the 10GB image you got. It may just take a while.
Rename the 10GB file to HD_10GB.img or similar and add it to Volumes.
If 7Zip really fails there is also WinRar. Not free, but the trial version should do.

In the SheepShaver GUI there is a create new image button too.
You should be able to create disk images from there too.

SheepGUI

Due to a bug in the Windows version, building ≥2GB images do result in Zero kByte files.
If you put in 1024 or 1536 and give your new file a name like NEW.dsk, the procedure should work.

A 120GB image for MacOS is overkill. A 10GB image still is very large and likely more than you will ever need. Better have some small disk files.

For the proof of concept, 7Zip is just expanding the 120GB file on my side.
No problem, but it takes its time.

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I first put the boot installer tray 1 after the 10gb disk image and after the creative disk image I created using the create 1gb program. In Rom I put this: mac_oldworld_rom4mb.rom
https://i.postimg.cc/tTgszr8z/1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/6q2Tk8W2/2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/ZnG04Jnf/3.png
no open program.

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You need the OS75-GR.dsk as topmost entry in Volumes.
(Or another disk image SheepShaver can boot from.)

Sheep-GUI-01

For a first start, I would set the Window to somewhat smaller than your monitor.

Sheep-GUI-02

Double check the path to the ROM and try 512MB RAM for SheepShaver.

Sheep-GUI-03

Then you should get something similar as this:

Sheep-Shaver

Of course you don´t have Mac-HD or Testdrive23, but thats not a problem.

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Good morning my friend thank you very much for your help and your patience. Would you like to tell me how I can install the ones I downloaded: (https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-os-anthology-99)
7.0.1.1 Greek Images

° Ú · ÌÌ · ÙÔÙÔÂÈÚ_˜ # B12.image
EÎÙ˘ˆÙ_˜ # F89.image
EÚÁ · ÏÂ ›· Û› ˆÓˆÓˆÓ.image
EH · HH · OL 1.image
OX · HOW · OL 2.image
SAFETY · .image

7.1 Greek Images

° Ú · ÌÌ · ÙÔÙÔÂÈÚ_˜ # B12.image
EÎÙ˘ˆÙ_˜ # F89.image
EÚÁ · ÏÂ ›· Û› ˆÓˆÓˆÓ.image
OX · HOW · OL 2.image
EH · HH · U.image
SAFETY · .image

7.1.2 Greek Images:
GR-009-1095-A (IMF)
GR-009-1097-A (Tidbits)
GR-009-1099-A (DT)
GR-009-1100-A (Install2)
GR-009-1384-A (Printing)
GR-009-1385-A (Fonts)
GR-009-1386-A (Extras)

7.5 Greek Images:

GR009-1445-A (ID-2)
GR009-1446-A (ID-3)
GR009-1447-A (ID-4)
GR009-1448-A (ID-5)
GR009-1449-A (ID-6)
GR009-1450-A (ID-7)
GR009-1451-A (DT)
GR009-1937-A (ID-1)

7.5.3 Greek Images

GR009-3879 (Install Disk 1)
GR009-3776 (Install Disk 2)
GR009-3880 (Install Disk 3)
GR009-3778 (Install Disk 4)
GR009-3779 (Install Disk 5)
GR009-3780 (Install Disk 6)
GR009-3781 (Install Disk 7)
GR009-3782 (Install Disk 8)
GR009-3783 (Install Disk 9)
GR009-3784 (Install Disk 10)
GR009-3785 (Install Disk 11)
GR009-3786 (Install Disk 12)
GR009-3787 (Install Disk 13)
GR009-3788 (Disk Tools)

How do I install these archive icons in SheepShaver.
Also how do I create a virtual hard disk icon should I choose this hard drive here: machfs10gb.img_ and then create a new hard disk with hfv extension from SheepShaver? Which ROM to put in?

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Anything below System 7.5.3 is useless for SheepShaver.
The 7.5.3 Greek images you listed above were used to create the OS7.5-GR.dsk.

Floppy images can be mounted by DiskCopy 6 from within SheepShaver.
In some cases images have to be dragged onto the running DiskCopy 6 Window.
It is also possible to add floppy images to the Volumes list of the SheepShaver GUI.

You can of course install System 7.0.1, 7.1 and 7.5 using the Mac emulator Basilisk II.
Thats a different story, but similar to using SheepShaver.

For SheepShaver, MacOS 7.6 and 8.6 could be your next steps, once you got OS7.5-GR running.
The disk image extension does not matter that much.
Volumes can be of .img, .dsk, .hfv type and a few more.
The machfs10gb.img should mount when added to Volumes, just delete the "_".

You already got the Macintosh ROM, both the 2MB and the 4MB file.
For SheepShaver you only need GUI - app - ROM - bootable disk.
You have all of them, but you must set up the GUI in the correct way.

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Good morning I did everything as you told me but I don't know why the program is not running it does not display any messages and I just shut it down on its own. How can I pass both ROMs as you wrote me before?

https://i.postimg.cc/YSyqxMHX/1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/mDzZXJZT/2.png

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Do not mix Basilisk II and SheepShaver.
Both emulators have excellent English guides at Emaculation.
If you follow the instructions by the letter, the Mac emulator will start.
Best ask someone near you to translate the setup instructions to your language if the English instructions do not make sense to you.

Again, for a simple start, only GUI, app, ROM and boot disk are needed.
Basislik II or SheepShaver have to be configured with the GUI to run.
The settings in the GUI are very important and have to make sense for the emulator - otherwise booting MacOS is not possible.

Set the RAM for the emulator to 128MB or more.
Have a disk image that can boot as first item in Volumes.
You may boot SheeShaver with the OS75-GR.dsk I made for you or with a boot disk here:
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macos-753-emulators

As written on the page above, this boot disk does also work with Basilisk II.
The first download will boot your emulator with an English Mac 7.5.3 System.
If booting should fail, there is something wrong with the settings made in the GUI.

None of your screenshots shows a bootable disk in Volumes for example.
If the emulator can´t find a boot disk, a Mac screen with a blinking question mark is shown.
If the emulator does nothing, often the correct ROM is not found.
From your screenshot, your ROM path does look right, though.

Best find the prefs file of your emulator and post the text here.

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I have no one here near me to help my friend hardly the only one who can help me come in naturally and please help me in need.
I have run the sheepshaver with English MacOS753.dsk as well as running normal with mac mac_oldworld_rom4mb.rom with 256 MB of memory. They all work well on both hard drives as well and the 6gb and the other I created as I show in the following images:

https://i.postimg.cc/XqnP1DQ7/1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/yxnbMXbh/2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/T2cF5f3y/3.png

My theme is how do I want to succeed on my own and install the Greek versions I've downloaded from here: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-os-anthology-99 how can i do that? I've posted the archives of these images at #34.
Thank you for yet another moment for your patience and kindness.

SheepShaver_prefs.txt file post here:
disk C:\Users\Gigabyte\Downloads\Compressed\MacOS753.dsk_\MacOS753.dsk
disk C:\Users\Gigabyte\Downloads\Compressed\SheepShaver_05_05_2010\SheepShaver\os.hfv
disk C:\Users\Gigabyte\Downloads\Compressed\pearpc-3gib.img
extfs
screen win/640/480
windowmodes 3
screenmodes 63
seriala COM1
serialb COM2
rom C:\Users\Gigabyte\Downloads\Compressed\SheepShaver_05_05_2010\SheepShaver\mac_oldworld_rom4mb.rom
bootdrive 0
bootdriver 0
ramsize 268435456
frameskip 8
gfxaccel true
nocdrom false
nonet false
nosound false
nogui false
noclipconversion false
ignoresegv false
ignoreillegal false
jit true
jit68k false
keyboardtype 5
keycodes false
mousewheelmode 1
mousewheellines 3
ignoresegv false
idlewait true
keycodes false
mousewheelmode 1
mousewheellines 3
enableextfs false
debugextfs false
extdrives CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
pollmedia true
etherpermanentaddress true
ethermulticastmode 0
routerenabled false
ftp_port_list 21
portfile0 C:\B2TEMP0.OUT
portfile1 C:\B2TEMP1.OUT

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Good that SheepShaver is working on your side!

Instead of the English MacOS753.dsk you can also boot from OS7.5-GR.dsk.
As written above, the OS7.5-GR.dsk was made from the 14 Greek floppy images for 7.5.3.

For the Anthology DVDs, the DVD.ISO files should mount by double click in Windows 10.
It should be safe to rename .cdr to .iso if you need any of those.
When the ISO is mounted, copy the desired .img to your SheepShaver folder and add the .img to Volumes.
Start SheeepShaver from one of the 7.5.3 boot disks.
When MacOS is running you can use the installer on the .img from DVD to install a new OS on a empty volume like the 6GB PearPC image.

Which OS would you like to install?
Greek was phased out of the Anthology after 7.5.3 sadly.
Likely somebody has a Greek MacOS 8 or 9 stored locally, but I´m not aware of anyone.

MacOS8