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Great work! Need to try this out ASAP Smile

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Dude! Wait a day or two! Really pushing on for a pre-christmas release of 1.9 - and this IS the version to install Wink

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FUNCTIONAL KEYS 1.9 RELEASED!
Freakin' finally finished up the formalities, guys! So here it is: Functional Keys 1.9 - my Christmas present from me to all you guys here at the Garden Smile

Since the last published release (version 1.6), the entire structure of Functional Keys has been turned upside down to accommodate for the option of accessing Functional Keys either from the keyboard or from the menu bar (or both Wink ). So I deeply recommend everyone to do a complete install of all components of version 1.9, overwriting old components when required.

For a complete list of changes since version 1.6, see the Functional Keys version history.

Version 1.9 is up for grabs here:
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/functional-keys/

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Christmas came early this year Wink
Going to update once I land safely again... looking real good!

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Yay!!! wow, your utility looks amazing ( and functional too! ). What a fabulous Christmas this is turning out to be Laughing out loud

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Thanks for the kind words fogWraith and cbone!

In respect to taking 'functional' literally, Functional Keys WILL be changing names in version 2.0, as it has evolved WAY past my original intent and long since outgrown its original name Wink So lets enjoy the puns while we can Tongue

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HELP NEEDED!
Hi guys! Looking for someone to beta version 1.9 on OS 8 and OS 8.5 quickly to check where compatibility with the current version of Functional Keys begins. I suspect that version 1.9 WILL support 8, as incompatibility with earlier systems is due to the lack of multithreading which was introduced with Mac OS 8. But, paraphrasing cbone, support might possibly only begin at 8.5.

As for 7.1 and up, no worries: I already have a fully working separate version that will be released with Functional Keys 2.0 Wink

Anyone able to give an old man a helping hand? Tongue

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It is amazing, thank you

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Hey guys! I know I've been silent as of late, but all the work I can do on Functional Keys 2.0 in an emulated environment has been finished months ago. Now I'm just biding my time before getting access to my real OS 9 hardware again during the first 2 weeks of July in order to tie up the loose ends Smile

However, I am in dire need for at least one of you guys to beta the current Functional Keys 1.9 on OS 8 before that time comes in order for me to properly reintegrate OS 7.1 through OS 8.6-support. I don't have time (or need) for this myself, so need someone here to take this bullet for me in order to make version 2.0 available here at the Garden.

If no one has the time or ability, no worries though. Version 1.9 is a competent release for OS 9 Wink

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Will testing on Mac OS 8.1 on Basilisk (emulated 68030 processor with FPU and emulated 68040 processor) for PSP do? And if I run into troubles, I'll check if it works on 7.5.5 on that same setup. But you know, I'm confident it will work. Smile

If testing on such an environment will do, do you require my e-mail or anything like that, for sending it?

If real hardware is required, then I can't help, though I really would like to see Functional Keys on SSW 7 68k. Sad

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Awesome, Jatoba Laughing out loud

Emulated or real hardware should not matter, neither should 68K or PPC. WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING A FULL INSTALL HERE! Simply copy the main Functional Keys 'functions' of the current release (version 1.9) to the OS 8 desktop and double-click several of them to see if they perform their duties or freeze the system.

Spelled out in plain text: I need to know where the OS-compatibility of the current version 1.9 'functions' start in order for me to tell the installer when to install the current multitasking version, and when to install the non-multitasking version that will be released with Functional Keys 2.0.

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Sorry for the very long delay. I installed and tested things on Mac OS 8.1 on Basilisk on PSVita (which itself is a port of the PSP port), and here are the results. I ended up doing a full install and tried out all I could.

Some things work, some don't. Among things that don't, it may be or may not be Basilisk Vita's fault instead of Functional Keys under 68k OS 8.1. Results are as follows:

- The dropdown file browsing works flawlessly;

- The "Exposé" functions work flawlessly;

- Resolution and color depth switching crash the emulator app, but that's likely the emulator's fault (the OS' built-in color/resolution switching resources also cause the same crash, and to switch them, it needs to be done in a menu before starting up the system). It should work under regular Mac OS 8.1, I believe, and even under Basilisk for other platforms, PSP included. At least resolution/color switching from within the system works in those other conditions (Basilisk for PSP and Windows) under Mac OS 8.1, and if Functional Keys just calls the same functions without reimplementing them, they should work;

- Trying to select "Mute" soft-locked my system. Meaning I could move the cursor around, but I couldn't interact with the Finder at all. Could or could not be an emulator problem. The other volume shortcuts didn't cause any harm, however;

- I didn't have any music file to test the "Music" functions with, but selecting them didn't cause any issues, and I could see the corresponding scripts were run accordingly (they showed up in the list of currently-running programs);

- The "Drive" Eject function cannot be tested by me because the PSVita doesn't have one. Selecting the option regardlessly caused my system to soft-lock or, much more rarely, the emulator to crash.

Sorry this wasn't very useful at all considering my unusual conditions. Hopefully someone got a real 68k Mac and will give Functional Keys a spin under OS 8?

Also, do you accept suggestions? If so, would you consider adding, at least as an option, Functional Keys' many functions/resources to the regular context menu? This way, it would also be THE 68k replacement of FinderPop, on top of it doing what it always did.
(For the record, I tried contacting the FinderPop dev regarding that, but I didn't get an answer.)

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No worries, Jatoba. Been hard at work with some other (non-computer-related) projects until yesterday. And am travelling on vacation to the west coast (and thus my Mac museum) today, so perfect timing Laughing out loud

If I'm allowed to paraphrase your findings, I understand that you have concluded with the following:

1. Volume functions work and do not freeze the system.
2. Mute function freezes the system.
3. Resolution and depth freezes the system but so does any change of resolution and depth on PSVita.
4. Music functions are unknown.
5. Eject function is unknown.
5. Exposé functions work.

Please correct me if I have understood any of your findings wrongly.

Is there any way I could persuade you to test version 2.0b on the same setup as well? If so, I can provide a download link for the beta. This would give me a much more palpable conclusion on the issue Wink

Anyways, thank you SO much for taking a bullet for the team Smile

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1. Volume functions work and do not freeze the system.
2. Mute function freezes the system.
3. Resolution and depth freezes the system but so does any change of resolution and depth on PSVita.
4. Music functions are unknown.
5. Eject function is unknown.
5. Exposé functions work.

Correct!

Is there any way I could persuade you to test version 2.0b on the same setup as well?

I'd be more than glad to do that!

As for context menu support, this is sadly WAY out of my league Sad I'm a concept/GUI/scripting kind of guy, and adding context menu support would need some SERIOUS coding.

However, I'm publishing Functional Keys open source, so if anyone would like to take my concept and run with it - be my guest Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

Oh, I see, it can't be helped then. But no biggie. Smile

I think including the source is always a good thing! It does leave open the possibility for even more.

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AWESOME Laughing out loud

Here's the link to the 2.0b download:

http://www.mednotes.net/resources/transfers/fk20b.sit

I've ONLY included the brand new Functional Keys functions with OS 7.1-7.6 (and, based on your findings, perhaps also OS 8) compatibility. Simply replace the current functions in the OtherMenu folder in the System Folder with these new functions, and you should be good to go Smile

PS: I've also added my e-mail address to the archive. Would really like to credit you in the 2.0 version history when that time comes, so if you want to be credited by your real name, feel free to drop me a line Wink

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As for context menu support, this is sadly WAY out of my league Sad I'm a concept/GUI/scripting kind of guy, and adding context menu support would need some SERIOUS coding.

However, I'm publishing Functional Keys open source, so if anyone would like to take my concept and run with it - be my guest Laughing out loud

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I can help out with testing on 7.6.1 on real PPC hardware Smile

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Really appreciate the kindness Bolkonskij! But have already beta-ed 2.0 on 7.5.5 myself, and works like charm Laughing out loud

As far as System 7 goes, the only beta-testing that might still be of use is a FULL INSTALL of version 2.0 on System 7.1 to verify once and for all that there are no ghosts in the machine between 7.5.5 and 7.1. Fairly certain 7.1 support is gold with version 2.0, though Smile

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Hey guys!

Just a progress update of both good news, bad news and ugly news on several fronts:

In respect to Functional Keys (changing names to 'Central Control' in version 2.0), the good news is that I've extensively beta-ed it on 9.2.2 this summer and it mostly works flawlessly Smile The bad news is that keyboard controls seem to be quite laggy in 68K applications running on PPC :/ And the ugly news is that I did not find time to create an Installer VISE installer this time around - so no version 2.0 until I get my ass back to my Mac museum sometime this fall Sad

In respect to Seagull AutoPlay (from now on known as 'Screenshow'), the good news is that I now have a proper proof-of-concept up running and that a proper fullscreen QuickTime playlist screensaver is quite possible Smile Better yet, I've made a brand new 'isometric' customization for Seagull Video Player (as the original icons/splash of Seagull were OUTRAGEOUSLY HIDEOUS). The bad news is that it needs quite a bit more tuning before it's ready for prime time :/ And the ugly news is that my litter of Siberian kittens totally annihilated my MacBook Pro - so I had no way of transporting it all back from my Mac museum for a pre-release here at the Garden Sad

So a little back to square one here Sad No worries though Smile I'll try to prioritize a travel back to the west coast as soon as humanly possible to tie up all the loose ends Wink