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Leopard Update Collection - Ok to Upload?

So I have recently realized there is no one place to acquire all of the updates for Leopard, as Software Update seems to be missing some of them. I have an almost complete collection of the updates (just missing Java Update 5) and I was wondering if it would be ok to upload a zipped DMG (or just a DMG) with all of the updates here, either on the OS X for PPC page or on its own page.

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Of course, feel free to add them Smile

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i thought I had uploaded all of them - but I don't see them...
I have them collected.

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The Intel updates could also be useful, if you have them, spf1954 or Europa

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Ok, awesome! I only have the PPC updates I think (although I thought that Leopard's updates were distributed as Universal Binaries), and I'm only missing Java Update 5, so if someone can get that for me then I can upload my collection of Leopard updates.

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Tiger has separate PPC & Intel updaters. I skipped Leopard, so I don't know if they are combined for Leopard. But if they are that's fine, it will be good to have them, thanks.

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No problem! I'm 95% certain that Leopard updates are Universal Binary Smile

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Yep, everything about Leopard is Universal. Except Rosetta, of course.

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You want to make one dmg with every update in it? The 10.5.x Combo/Delta updates themselves total up to around 7GB and that's just client not server. Please separate the OS updates from the miscellaneous updates.

QuickTime updates total 500 MB - another separation please.
Security Updates, client and server... Huge!

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Oh, sorry! Not every update, only the updates that would be downloaded by Software Update to bring a fresh install of 10.5 up to a fully up-to-date version of 10.5.8.

Sorry for the confusion.

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I have the Java5. Make your page and I'll upload it, then you can erase it and replace it with your collection.

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Ok, will do! Laughing out loud

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Make sure you have
QuickTime764_Leopard
That one was not getting automatically installed when auto updates was still working.

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And QT 7.7.0 seeing that 7.6.4 isn't Leopard's last QT?

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Really? I've only seen 7.6.4 distributed for the most part. I have that but not 7.7.0.

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Apple must've never put 770 into software update because too few people heard of it. I downloaded it from apple support when they posted it back in 2012. Three whole years between 764 - 770.

"QuickTime 7.7 improves security and is recommended for all Mac OS X Leopard users. For information on the security content of this update, please visit ... support.apple.com/kb/HT1222."

I've never used it though. Like MikeTomTom, I "skipped" Leopard also.

So I'll put this on your page too.

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Ok, thanks! The DMG is 1.5GB almost, so I'm compressing it and splitting it into 500MB segments for upload.

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https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/leopard-update-pack

The pack has been posted! Laughing out loud

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I thought you'd prefer to put all the bits in one archive b4 uploading. Anyway, should your page descr read that it is for updating "10.5.8" not "10.5"?

I also have a "LeopardMigrationAssistant" which apple increased in 2012, and a "PerformanceUpdate" they released in late Oct 2009. Do you need these?

Do you have or need Front Row 2.1.7 ?
What is your highest combo security update?

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I was originally going to put it all in one archive, but the DMG is 1.3GB so I wanted to split it up when I zipped it.

I included the combo update, so it can technically update 10.5, but I'll probably remove that as it was pointed out to me that it's already present here.

I have Migration Assistant but not Performance, so the latter would be great Smile

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You don't need the 10.5.8 update if you are including it. That's already on line.

https://macintoshgarden.org/sites/macintoshgarden.org/files/apps/Leopard...

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Ok, thanks! I'll take it out when I re-upload it

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I'm testing my files.
Utilities/Migration Assistant moves from v1.2.3 to v1.2.4

System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app moves from 2.1 to 2.1.7 (and sheds almost half its size) but this requires that QT 7.5.5 or higher be added first.

PerformanceUpdate doesn't run on my PPC nor my Intel, it says "Your computer does not have eligible hardware" but (thanx apppull) doesn't say what the hardware is nor allow me to bring up the pkg files. It is dated Oct 12 2009 and is 251513 bytes (248k). I ran "Pacifist" to inspect its pkg contents, to find the only thing it will update is
"System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOAHCIBlockStorage.kext"
I extract the BlockStorage kext and new it reads v1.2.3 whereas the PlugIn kext Leopard 10.5.8 gives me initially is v1.2.2 .. what hardware could this be for??

What is the highest Security Update you have?

Please list out on your page the things inside your bundle.
Are you sure the Mig Asst you have already v1.2.4 update?

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The highest security update I have is 2011-004, the Migration Assistant is 1.2.4 (just checked the version on my system, which does have the Mig Asst update installed), and I will list them out right now.

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2011-004 is the final big combo security update, but, apple published a small delta update in 2012, they called it 2012-003 to align with other concurrent updates and I assume there aren't 2012-002, 2012-001, nor 2011-005+ for Leopard. Im looking into it now, I know I have it smwhere...

Suggestions:
Keep both QT 764 and QT 770 and tag 770 as untested? Unless someone can attest to it here quickly...
Version numbers for AirPort Utility and Mig Asst would aid users in understanding their systems and whether an update on their system is/was needed or not.

So someone's got to do the full 10.5.7 and older Updates page one day (probably several days). Facepalm
I'm not going to start into that any time soon.

My fav Leopard mods:
I don't use internet, and like my Leopard lean and mean mostly for games and some productivity. I haven't tried security updates. I definitely recommend using 10.5.8 not 10.5.7- but the 10.5.7- pkgs ought to be archived for historical and testing purposes.

My QT is 7.4.0 because it's fast.
My "corevideo.framework" was ripped from OS X 10.5.5 but now I'm unsure if Leo installs cvf with a random speed setting how Tiger does it. If so then 7.5.5 cvf being fast for me could be incidental. I also edit Tiger's cvf to go the fastest and havent tested my latest cvf tricks (from Tiger) on Leopard yet.
And fast is> Shutting off video "Beam Sync".
et.al.

note one nice thing about the Leopard series is that every Leo QT7 version can run on every 10.5.x OS, so nobody needs to know minimum OS ver requirements for QT because there aren't such requirement. There was a Compatibility Update for QT 7.5.5 which can be run on all Leo QT older than 7.5.5 - it should be included in the bundle because we can choose to hold QT low yet still apply this update (it is one video codec).

I'll send up the QT-compatabilityupdate and 2012-003 in another little file, unless you say you don't need one or both.

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That would be awesome if you could, thank you! Smile

Do you think I should stick the 10.5.8 combo update in the final pack or leave it out given that it's already on the site?

QuickTime 770 installs and runs on my system.

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Uploaded both.
The QT bit says it helps with iChat, but/and it actually replaces the H.264 video codec with a newer version.

2012-003 I was unable to test. The note I scribbled years ago says this SU targets only the Adobe Flash and I don't have Flash latest version on Leo nor do i use the internet plugin. Maybe also maybe it needs 2011-004 applied first? or it is potentially intel-only too, because Abode Flash switched their new releases to intel-only around this same time.

I'd take the 10.5.8 Combo from out of your archive. Its bigger than one those segments you sliced. Yoy can make it another dL on your page, and describe how it should be the very first one of the updates to be applied... the 10.5.8C will be a large file that most folks own already, then they'll want to dL the bunch of smaller updates excluding 10.5.8C.
You are able to shuffle the ordering of your downloads on your page.

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Ok, thank you very much! I'll get those added and the Combo separated. Should have it updated by tomorrow Smile

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At a glance, I think Apple's "PerformanceUpdate" for certain hardware is targetting a then new protocol carried over the SATA cables, AHCI, used for "S.M.A.R.T." communications. An example usage of SMART is getting readings from temperature sensors located inside SATA storage drives that support SMART. Not all drives and not all drive controllers support SMART. Most or all PowerPC oem hardware did not. But, after Apple's switch to intel cpus SMART drives came into widespread use.

This is most evident in the PowerPC edition of Tiger Server 10.4.11 does not have the IOAHCIFamily.kext nor the AppleAHCIPort.kext - but Tiger Server 10.4.11 intel edition does. Confirmed this by I have a program which displays Drive temperatures and I'm shown no drive sensors on my PowerPC Tiger hardware, while I do get Drive sensor data in Tiger on my intel Mac.

OS X Leopard of course possesses the AHCI kexts, though my PowerPC PowerMac is uninterested in even making the AHCI kexts load in; the PerformanceUpdate won't do anything on my PowerMac even if i force installation of it on my PPC Leopard. Simply because the kexts don't load. I'd love to force the AHCI kexts to load in Leopard on PPC, anyone know how or if it can be done?

The "PerformanceUpdate" changes part of AHCI (in Leopard only, and when the update is accepted if at all) changes from a v1.2.2 yr 2007 kext to v1.2.3 year 2009 kext. My intel Leopard has the v1.2.2 thing loaded in and I got drive temperatures, but this PerformanceUpdate won't install.

Ill bet there is NOT an incompatibility with forcing the update, Apple surely kept it backward compatible. For some reason I'll bet they were nervous about handing the update out to everyone including those who didn't need it (my intel Mac was originally a sealed unit where the only SATA port is internal). So they rationed the update and fieldtested its outcome.

So, having said all that I think it could be wise of me to force this update on my intel Mac having Leopard.

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Perhaps the difference made with the PerformanceUpdate has to do with the "TRIM command" for SSDs, some of you talk a lot about. Isn't the means of communication for Trim done across SMART protocol? Look at the name of the kext, AHCI Block Storage. Sounds about right...

I put no weight in Trim, I could care less. I've spent 10 years TRYING to kill my SSDs and have not succeeded once yet. I secure empty trash and I secure erase whole volumes and I'm on PowerPC without the Trim, oh heavens. But crickets from almost ten SSD units.

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That's interesting... I forced the installation of that update with Pacifist and I haven't noticed any changes

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Yes, I'm using it too on intel. Are you using it on intel or ppc? Even if it's not just a bug fix in SMART or a bug fix in TRIM, if it goes so far as to be responsible for changing Trim from Off to the On state, what would there be to notice? Maybe time will tell.

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I'm using a Mac Mini G4 with a spinner. I'd like to upgrade to an SSD through some means at some point though.

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Update Pack is posted Laughing out loud

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Decided ... not to have QT7.7 nor PerformanceUpdate ?

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D'oh! They're in there! Sorry, I forgot to list them. I did the finalization of the page right after I woke up this morning >.>