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International English / British English Mac OS Classic

Hi Folks,

I'm a long time lurker of the Macintosh Garden... but seeing as i finally have some unique stuff to upload, i thought it was high time i registered an account!

I've noticed that there aren't many British English or International English versions of the classic mac OS on the site (except for the TiBook 1Ghz Smile ). I've scored a couple of good finds from eBay, namely:

Z691-3334-A - Mac OS 9.2.1 - ROM 8.4 (Retail Disc)
Z691-4681-A - Mac OS 9.2.2 - MDD2003 International English CPU Z-5.8 ROM 10.2.1 (the 10.3 disc, not the 10.3.2 disc... and only disc 1 unfortunately)

These would be large uploads, so how would I go about doing that? Is there an FTP server somewhere? Also, for the last one, i'd be wanting to upload the OS9General.dmg too, to save any MDD2003 users having to download all of Panther Wink

I'm seriously wondering whether there actually was ever a CPU Software Z-5.9 at this point (It would be on the 10.3.2 disc, Z691-4872-A, if so!)

Edit: Typical n00b mistake. Misread the upload size limit as being 8mb Wink

Mac OS 9.2.1 International English
International English 10.3.0 disc (Z691-4681-A)

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I've seen large uploads shared at the Garden being hosted at Mega cloud storage. And since they do offer free 50gb accounts, maybe you could make an account and upload there until it can be copied over by an admin? Just an idea.

Also, Google Drive could provide a temporary parking spot to upload a few large files.

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Thanks for your suggestions Smile But thankfully, the upload limit is 8GB, and it seemed to work this time too!

I've also added iDVD for OS9 now too Smile

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I've seen large uploads shared at the Garden being hosted at Mega cloud storage.

A relic from the time when the upload size was limited.

cbone's picture
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Oh good! Glad to know the Garden has bigger limits now Smile

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We don't really have limits per se, HTTP is just an unreliable protocol when it comes to uploading I think Tongue

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welcome & thanks for preserving software with your uploads! (Finally Mac OS 9 in proper English Laughing out loud)

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Thanks Smile I feel exactly the same way, virtually all of the restore discs here and on archive.org are the U.S. English versions.

And all recent experiments e.g. getting the mini to boot OS9 are always in U.S. English too Sad
I'm going to try at some point to build a mini OS 9 in International English myself Smile

Does anyone know at which point 'British English' ceased to exist, and was replaced by 'International English'?

I know 8.1 was available in a B version, and 9.0.4 wasn't - but was 8.5 / 8.5.1 / 8.6 available in British English, or only 'International English'?

Also - I can't seem to find a 9.1 International English OR U.S. English Retail build - I think this is worth preserving as it is the highest system that will run on the first gen (NuBus) PPC macs - and it isn't possible to upgrade from 9.0.4 on these machines Sad

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In particular, if anyone has these System versions, they would be very welcome!

7.1.2 (British English) for the 6100/7100/8100
7.6.1 Retail (British English - preferably not 7.6)
8.1 Retail (British English - preferable not 8.0)
Any British/International English 8.5, 8.51, or 8.6 for the B&W G3
8.6 Retail (British/International English)
9.1 Retail (International English)

And any machine specific versions of 9.2.2 in International English (TiBook - which seems to work OK with iBook G3 - and MDD2003 are already on the garden).

Some of these are available in the Anthology DVDs, however - they seem to be damaged (I read somewhere this was something to do with ' incorrect permissions' - however that looks on Classic / HFS)

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Damaged, like in the disk image you are trying to open is damaged and may damage your system? There are many ways that msg appears, most are tenuous, none occurred prior to Tiger 10.4.9 and apple should be beaten up over this. Many disc makers have used it only as a scare tactic for anti piracy, then on the other hand I've seen some images actually hurt the system (Tiger...), some times it is images which do not even present this warning. Apple must be mocked for what boils down to failure to handle a Document correctly.

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Thanks for the reply SkyCapt - been very interested in reading your threads about getting the most out of the MDD2003 - that's my most recent eBay score, really going to enjoy fixing this machine up Smile

I forget exactly, but it wasn't the OSX 'damaged' message upon opening a disk image. It was the actual OS 7/8/9 installers themselves that were failing. Will do more research at some point, and post on the anthology disc page itself.

Edit: Here's the thread describing the errors https://macintoshgarden.org/forum/mac-os-anthology-fail-install-system-software-correctly

However - I was able to install British 8.6 from these discs Smile Still, as there is no system folder on the disc image, and it's not blessed / enclosed in an APM with patch partitions it's not bootable. So i'm still looking for the Retail CD of British 8.6 .

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I have British retail 7.6 and 8.1 iMac CD that can be installed on other Macs too.