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2019, September 28 - 6:16pm

capt_chuckl3s

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I have a suggestion for this website....

Don't ever take this site down, and don't stop being your awesome selves. (I read threads started by a guy named inuya5ha....woof. Thought I'd work in a joke and a compliment). The website is amazing source for abandonware and games that would take me a long time to find on my own, and has a community that is very helpful. You guys helped me get the Classic mode installed on my iBook. Someone uploaded a copy of iWork '09 with instructions on how to, shall we say, "jailbreak" it, and that helped out tremendously because I didn't want to use Open Office (I didn't like the look of OO and I've used Pages and Numbers before). Still working finding games, I'm looking around like a kid in a candy store. I sincerely thank you all.

I do have a question though, and it's not a bad one. I have copies of Mac OS 10.7, 10.8, 10.10, and 10.13 which we all know is for Intel-based machines. Would it be okay if i uploaded the files (especially the Lion and Mountain Lion files) to the website or would that be a waste of time? 10.7 and 10.8 are no longer supported by Apple, so technically they would be considered abandonware, and there's rumor that Apple might be leaving Intel. Just let me know what you think.

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2019, September 28 - 7:45pm

Jatoba

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Over here, we normally abide by the "10-year rule", meaning anything older than 10 years, if not actively sold anymore, can be hosted here, by anyone.

Most people here are "Classic" Mac OS enthusiasts, or PowerPC architecture Mac OS X enthusiasts, but there is an audience for Intel Mac OS X abandonware, as well. As long as it's something from 2009 and earlier (since we are in 2019), and it isn't sold anymore, you are free to share it here with us all. In fact, we welcome it. It wasn't until some years ago (before I joined) that PowerPC OS X software was acceptable, due to differing community opinions, but eventually it was embraced, and from what I can tell, Intel OS X is not so different.

The only thing is that the Intel architecture itself is still used on modern "Macs", and that's where eyebrows may be raised, as the hardware type itself isn't as abandoned as PPC and 68k. But as you pointed out, Apple is supposedly going to migrate from Intel to ARM very, very soon. So even in this regard, it is going to become like 68k and PPC. Meaning no problem there either.

2019, September 28 - 10:25pm

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capt_chuckl3s

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When you put it that way, it would make more sense to just wait for something like an end-of-life announcement. Don't need to be taken down for lawsuits. All Apple laptops and desktops being sold today would still have Intel chips, as you stated, so it would again be a good idea to wait. And to bring the point home, you can still buy a physical copy of Snow Leopard from Apple, whereas the only way I could get a copy of Tiger is Ebay, Craigslists, or a local flea market.

I appreciate both PowerPC OS X and Intel OS X, to be honest. Yes I do like the styling of what I like to call the "Shiny GUI" of the PowerPC OS X, but I also like the features of High Sierra that my late 2009 MacBook is running, which I call the "Pastel GUI" (plus i can backup my files and music from my iPad and iPhone 6S to the 09 MacBook). It's like a Star Wars fan having an appreciation for Star Trek, I guess.

2019, September 28 - 10:00pm

WhosIt.There

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Apple has been supposedly moving Mac computers to their own ARM chips for MANY years, pretty much since the first iOS devices were released.

2019, September 29 - 12:09am

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Jatoba

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That far back? Impressive. I know it's been popping up a lot more, more recently, because this time around, Intel themselves said that Apple was going to move away from their processors, some months back. Well, we will see.

2019, September 29 - 2:25am

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capt_chuckl3s

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For the past three months or so, I've been seeing more articles on Facebook and videos on Youtube about the subject. Only time will tell as this point.

2019, September 29 - 2:52am

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WhosIt.There

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The more recent versions of the A-series chips used in the iPhone and iPad have been rated as "desktop class", which has fuelled rumours even further. The supposed comment from Intel has also added to the rumour mill.

2019, September 29 - 12:02pm

24bit

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As for SL, fogWraith already posted that the buy links are dead meanwhile.
The topmost link in the picture below is leading nowhere any more.
Maybe time to upload 10.6.0 and 10.6.1 already?
10.6.8 is from 2011, so it may be better to wait until 2021 - many DL links for SL can be found on the net though - like The Internet Archive, just to name one.

2019, September 29 - 1:31pm

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Jatoba

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This is surprising. And somewhat sad. I looked around to double-check, and I couldn't believe it! They really aren't selling SL anymore, and redirect you to an irrelevant Apple page instead. This is a huge blow for many "legit" Hackintosh paths, whereas you purchased SL from Apple, then went from there. Now that same path will require copies from 3rd parties.

Or they can rely on other paths. Such as by having a Mac with App Store access, then buy the digital version of the system you want. Though I suspect they only sell Mojave nowadays, with the other systems only available for download by those who purchased them back when they were still being sold. (Apple somehow has been managing to lock things down further and further exponentially for the past decade, both HW & SW, for everyone's detriment.)

Uploading SL would technically fit the 10-year rule, but I'd be a bit concerned about the OS' built-in updating system. And the latest update is technically from 2013, a security update. Maybe it'd be best to wait either for the ARM switch or 2023, whichever comes first?

2019, September 29 - 4:18pm

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24bit

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Thats what I thought too, better late than in trouble.
The App Store is unable to find "Snow Leopard" except for some instruction things.
Whether older versions of OSX/macOS are available to the public, I can´t tell, but I doubt that.
Things will differ for developers or when booting from Recovery, I suppose.
Many here will have stored each and every OS since Tiger locally, so most of the stuff should be available when needed.

2019, September 29 - 4:48pm

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Antonin29

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I agree; plus Snow Leopard can be found very easily on torrent sites in the advent of a disappearance of SL disks on Ebay or Craiglist.

2019, September 30 - 3:10am

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I've got official install discs for Leopard and Snow Leopard bought from Apple when they were new releases (one by my brother and the other by a client). I decided to keep hold of them just in case I ever needed them again.

2019, October 3 - 2:01am

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capt_chuckl3s

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I've bought my copy from Apple too.