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How to install mac os x Jaguar from Usb on PowerBook G4 1Ghz

ok so yesterday i got a PowerBook G4 and it has a lot of junk on it so i found the restore .toast file and i do have mac os x leopard but i couldn’t get it to boot do any of you guys know how to get it to boot planning on playing some classic mac os games

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While it IS POSSIBLE to install OSX from USB (firmware - similar to Terminal Commands), this would be MISERABLE SLOW if that is USB 1.0. What model is it? Most likely, you'd do way better to use firewire from a second Mac in Target Disc Mode.

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aluminum 1ghz 12 inch

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So it would be this one? https://everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/specs/powerbook_g4_1.0_1...
If so, I would install Panther or Tiger on it - if your SuperDrive is still working, that is.
(Snow Leo would be too sluggish, even If it can be hacked to get into the installer.)

The choice about 10.3 or 10.4 depends on the amount of RAM installed.
Either way, you could use Apple´s Classic Mac emulation for old stuff.

Disk images are here: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-osx-mac-os-10-ppc
#18 and below.

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Honestly, the best thing to do is pull the hard drive and put it in a normal PowerMac and build it from there - putting it back in the PowerBook when done. The install will go much faster. Leopard is a terrible idea. Panther would feel the fastest if you don't actually need Tiger.

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i can not figure out how to get panther or tiger to install from usb and no the superdrive does not work and yes it is that one so how would i preferably install panther i am just trying to erase the drive and install a better os on it due to there being a ton of junk from the previous owner

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Doing from USB is REALLY ADVANCED and difficult. Besides, there's a strong chance that system might not even support it.

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Here are the directions - but this assumes: #1 you set up the USB drive correctly, and #2 the system will run 10.2 (both complicated issues). If trying to use USB disc drive, there are sync issues too that can be a deal breaker.
https://www.macintoshrepository.org/articles/115-how-to-boot-ppc-powerma...

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Here are some useful repair guides collected: https://web.archive.org/web/20060702021722/http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/5...

I would second the advice of taking out the the HDD and install OSX from another Mac, unless there is a way of using the PCMCIA slot with a SD or CF adapter.

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what about mac os 9 on unsupported macs will the universal iso install via usb

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Better try with a proper CF Adapter and CF device in the PCMCIA slot.
Restore the content of a 10.4 retail DVD to CF with another Mac, boot with that and proceed from there.
CF devices have been used with G4 PowerBooks as written e.g. here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/powerbook-g4-boot-from-compact-flas...

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What G4 is it? Titanium? Aluminum? 12"? 15"? 17"?
There are at least seven different models.
everymac.com

Some are very easy to replace the DVD on (15" and 17" Aluminum).
Some are a real pain (12" A1010).
You can always hookup a Firewire DVD drive.
Or install onto an external Firewire Drive (on a different machine) and clone on to the internal.

Classic mode will run as long as you stay at or below 10.4 Tiger.
But only the Titanium models can actually boot 9.2.2

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what is the difference though between that and usb all i want is to play classic games from the early to mid 90s at ease on this thing

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i have the 2003 12 inch 1.0Ghz model aluminum powerbook g4

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That's the worst one.
A several hour job and complete strip down.
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/PowerBook+G4+Aluminum+12-Inch+1-1.5+GHz+Opt...

I would dig up a external Firewire/IDE cabinet that already has an optical drive or can be equipped with one.

I lend you a cloneable external HD of whatever OS you want to install - but it seems like you would still need a functional optical drive to play many games.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lacie-CD-burner-Firewire-400-for-Mac-works/1743...

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ok so i got it to boot but it shows me a probitory stop sign symbol any help i used usb2 and device@1 in place of usb@0 and disk@1 which oddly enough got me this far

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I don't believe it can. Jaguar, boot, USB, that is. I've been booting Tiger and Leopard from USB for a decade now. But I've never gotten Panther nor Jaguar to, throws up the Do Not Enter like you say.

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ok then how would i boot tiger for now i used the 10.4.6 iso from the garden and it throws up this do not enter sign

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Your PBG4-1GHz might not be capable of Any booting via USB, due to that feature not included in its Firmware coding. My machine is one of the first ever able to, the PowerMac 2003. Even so, it still wasn't a declared feature of any PPC hardware except maybe the 2005 G5. Many people didn't learn these 2003+ machines could boot USB until many years after because such info wasnt online.

I just tried booting the 10.2.7 (G5 edition) and got the grey Apple, the spinning progress wheel, and then the prohibitory symbol. Tho, I boot Tiger 10.4.8 from a microSD card all the time as one of my "rescue" devices.

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would i be able to network boot it from another mac??? possibly with leopard

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Oh wait, you're trying to boot the (10.4.6) Installer? I dunno if that works even for moi. I installed things the "normal" DVD way, then I "image" the OS, restore the image to the microSD, and then boot the post-installed OS. I'm testing the 10.4.6 Installer on USB now...

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I can boot the 10.4.6 Installer from USB. Thought it wasn't going to work, tho I do Not recommend it, here is why. First, Leopard and higher Installers obviously work from USB, the Internet is chock full of info about them. But I've never seen Tiger recommended on USB in the same way. That it worked (for me) made me curious if 10.3 Panther Install disc would also work: it didn't, prohibited. But anyway, all Apple OS X Install discs for 10.3 and higher contain a Hidden Partition. To see this hidden part, mount the Installer image and then deploy the Terminal command "diskutil list". The installer volume should appear with "Apple_partition_scheme", "Apple_partition_map", and "Apple_Driver_ATAPI" is most often the name of the hidden partition. If you don't see these names and the installer volume has like only one line of text such as "Mac OS X Install DVD" then **that means the DVD was imaged IMPROPERLY.

When a proper image is burned to DVD, the hidden partition is burned along with it. But when even a proper image is transferred to USB media, the hidden partition is flung off and I don't know any reasonable method of constructing USB Install media with the proper hidden partition plus the contents of that hidden part. It certainly is not an ATAPI Driver how named. Tiger's hidden part is only 4KB, too small to be a driver, while Leopard's hidden part is almost half GB, too big, and Snow Leopard is almost full GB, too big to be a low-level disc driver.

OS X allows you to install it without the hidden partition in existence, BUT Apple probably codewormed how it will perform. This went down at the same time that Apple created a new "Extension" named "Dont Steal OS X" - Apple was going full retard by this time period. My personal tests showed that Panther is codewormed, and I hope I didn't misinterpret my tests. Tiger probably is too, I think that's when they put in the "Dont Steal..." extension. Leopard? I dunno, if Leopard were to (still) require this Hidden partition, that means EVERYONE who installs using USB stix are DOING IT WRONG. I just started using Snowjob Leopard, had trouble, and found the hidden part omitted by whoever imaged it. Right now I obtained a better SL with the hidden part and shall see what happens.

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i do have a copy of leopard server would i be able to use Netboot to do this if you can not figure this out on your end that is

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do you mind telling me how you did it and what device you did it on

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Ok later on, in about twelve hrs ...

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A - No way to ever boot OS 9 on this machine - Classic Only.

Stop beating your head against the wall.
You have 5 options.

1- Buy an external Firewire/CD-DVD drive.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LaCie-CD-RW-External-Drive-with-FireWire-for-Ma...
2- Put it in target mode and install from a machine with firewire that's compatible with whatever OS you want to use.
3- Replace the optical drive.
4- Tell me what OS you want and I'll lend you an external firewire drive that you can Carbon Copy Clone to the internal.
5- If you're in the USA, spend $15 - put the thing in a flat rate box - send it to me and I'll fix it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333727071630

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ok so i need jaguar it can boot it i believe it can boot 10.2.7 i used to have installation discs for this powerbook but my cats scratched them up so now they will not boot any longer i guess my only option is firewire so yeah if someone is willing to lend me a firewire drive that would be great