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HELP! Mac OS 9 won't let me to install OS X

Hello, I just bought an iBook G3 Dual USB. It has Mac OS 9 on it right now. The problem is: I want it to upgrade from OS 9 to OS X, but since the iBook just ,,spits'' discs from the DVD-drive, I tried to install OS X from a USB-drive. What happened: It says ,, Startup Disk was unable to select the install CD as the startup disk (-2). Does anyone know how to boot from USB in classic Mac OS like in OS X where you press the C key on boot? Or does anyone know how to install OS X on this thing?

Sincerely
Jonel

EDIT: So, I got it to boot under USB, but then it gets stuck at the happy Mac and shows the spinning beechball and a kinda like torn blinking folder.

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That model never supported booting from USB really...betting you'd stand a better shot booting from FireWire. Booting from Mac OS 9 CDs was accomplished by holding down C at startup as well. I'm assuming you tried booting from at least 10.1 if not 10.2?

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I'm trying to install 10.0, but i'll give the FireWire a shot. Thanks

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Don't install 10.0. 10.0 was not even beta-release quality.

Install 10.2 or 10.3; they're the first that are fast enough and stable enough to be usable.

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Bought this model ("Dual USB") 2nd hand as well, and also noticed differences between USB and Firewire in relation to hard disk drives. Firewire seems to be the better choice.

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Keep Mac OS 9, use it as "Classic Environment" within Mac OS X.

What about the internal hard disk drive?

Me, built in an ATA to SD adapter with SD card up to 32 GB, larger ones failed with Hard Disk Utility.

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So, what should I buy, should I buy a FireWire to USB adapter?

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No. Use the FireWire port directly.

Me, had bought some 2nd-hand FireWire enclosures, adding IDE-to-SD card adapters as hard disk drive.

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I think that the most promising will be an external FW-400 drive and cable.
Have a second working Mac/Hackintosh with FW-400.
Restore the desired OSX onto a small partition of the FW drive with DiskUtility on the helper Mac.
Format the FW hdd as APM / HFS before.
Boot your Dual USB from the FW installer partition and install the desired OS.

I can´t tell how hard it is replacing the optical drive, but Apple mostly used stock PC parts with a custom bezel. PC pATA DVD drives are dirt cheap meanwhile.

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You could also replace the optical (and HDD) in there with an SSD drive and an SD card slot. Replacing the optical drive with an SD card reader will take a bit of fiddling though, so if you want to keep the device as original as possible, just replace the HDD with an SSD and find an old UATA Pioneer tray-load DVD-RW drive, swap the bezel, and swap it in.

According to everymac.com, this model supports a single internal Ultra ATA 2.5" hard drive or SSD that is up to 9.5 mm thick.

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Solved!
The problem was that I was trying to burn a CD with a toast file. That didnt work since the iBook spitted out CDs. So I tried to go to my windows PC and create a bootable USB stick with Tiger on it. It stucked at the Apple logo without any hard drive sound. Then I burned a disk with Puma on it via a ISO file and just like magic it worked out!

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Awesome, Jnel!! Laughing out loud

Sometimes the issues are so minor we overlook the more obvious answers Smile thank you so much for sharing how you got it to work for you since these types of issues can be tricky to solve sometimes!