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Hello

I wanted to take a moment and introduce myself. I'm new to website and to be honest, I'm slightly new to all things Apple. Well I do have an iPad, Apple Watch, iPhone 6S, and a MacBook but none of them are brand spanking new. I have an iBook G4 that I'm just basically playing around with as far as playing some games and casual computing, which led me to finding this website. I'm neighborhood friendly and I promise I'm not a killbot deployed by Microsoft to eradicate you all (again, just kidding).

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Hello! The iBook G4 is a good'un, although I need to fix mine, as several years ago it succumbed to the chip soldering issue that also affected the iBook G3s... Will be nice to have a Tiger system running that I can play with.

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"Will be nice to have a Tiger system running that I can play with."

It's nice to meet you. Funny that you mention you wanted a Tiger system because my iBook is running Tiger, 10.4.11 to be exact. I always like the look of this GUI.

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Nice to meet you too!

While the iBook g4 can boot into 10.5 Leopard (EDIT: except apparently the 12-inch 800MHz model), I would personally prefer to keep 10.4 Tiger as Leopard dropped support for Classic Mode, which, if you're interested in running older software, would be less than desirable.

However, if you really want or need 10.5 as well, you can always create a separate boot partition.

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I've heard that Leopard on an iBook G4 can be a bit unstable, so I'm not really inclined to upgrade to it. To be honest, I do like the look of Tiger and I think I'll keep it the way I bought it, maybe pick up a Tiger startup disk for emergencies. I've been known to try things that I shouldn't lol.

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It can be unstable, but the hardware issue can be repaired:

https://macintoshhowto.com/hardware/how-do-i-get-my-broken-g4-ibook-fixe...

I plan on doing on mine as it's been sitting otherwise dead for years. Nothing to lose!

EDIT: I misread your post! I have no experience running Leopard on the iBook G4, so I can't comment on that!

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Welcome and also try your luck with different emulators. They offer enhanced stabillity, because you don't risk loosing your entire setup by doing some daring "trial & error".

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Thank you and I'll keep that tip in mind. Do you have an emulator that you prefer? I'll be on the look out for a recovery disk, just a little insurance for those "Oops, Chuckles broke something again" moments. Smile

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Sorry, I am prejudiced here: Basilisk-II
But its limited to 68k. Sheepsaver and others offer PowerPC emulation, too.

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Welcome to the Garden, captn chuckl3s! A iBook G4 is a good base for running lots of newer apps & games, especially in Classic mode. You have plenty of entertaining hours ahead Smile

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Thank you. Now I know that this is going to sound newbie, but is there a how-to on getting into Classic mode? Just need a little direction, I've been a biomedical equipment technician for over 11 years so I'm used to digging through service manuals to solve problems.

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Use download #1 from here. Inside the disc image, there's a folder called "System Folder". Just copy it into your hard disk. On System Preferences, there's a pane called "Classic". Click on that, and point it to the System Folder you copied. Then there's a button, "Start Classic", which you press.

Report back if you have any issues.

Also, rather than using Classic, I recommend giving Mac OS 9.2.2 itself a try, in case your G4 is able to run it. It's a very lightweight operating system, with some programs, mostly games, only able to properly run in that system natively. Sadly, no emulators today replicate the experience properly (i.e. Sheepshaver doesn't attain framerates higher than 30 fps, making everything less smooth).

Since Mac OS 9.2.2 is an entirely different operating system compared to Mac OS X, it will take some time to getting acquainted with. But it's worth a try. If you give it a try, but run into problems with that as well, give us a shout.

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The iBook G4 is unable to boot into mac os 9, sadly. Sad

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Thanks for the tip. I downloaded #1 of Mac OS 9, copied the System Folder over to my HD, started Classic mode and it first tells me that the version of Quicktime needs to be updated ver. 6.0.3, then when I continue the start up it gives me a warning "The system on the startup disk only functions on original, not if copied to another drive". Did I miss a step? I've downloaded quicktime6.cdr_.sit and tried to copy it to the system folder, but to no avail because I was in Mac OS X.

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Not sure why you were directed to that particular CD image, as it's for booting from CD only, in order to complete the install of Mac OS 9.2.2 (something you can't do with your iBook G4)

Copying that System Folder to a HD & attempting to boot from it, will give you that undesirable message.

If you want Classic on your PowerBook, grab the top download from this page, if your language choice is US English, or the 2nd DL which is International English. Unzip the archive and run the installer ".pkg" to complete the install.

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Oh, that was my bad. I figured any version of 9.2.2 would suffice, and that the image labeled as "Universal" would always work for all Classic needs. I think this is the version I use on my Mac mini, IIRC? Regardless, thanks for recommending a more suitable disc image.

I remember getting the QuickTime message once (which I got past by installing the latest "Classic" version of QuickTime), but not the other message. Hopefully using that other download will get past both issues simultaneously. My apologies!

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Don't beat yourself up, anybody could've made that mistake. I appreciate you trying to help.

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Thank you for your help. I've got it installed without one hiccup. Now it's time to find some games Smile