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Has Adobe scared everyone off?

I've been looking for Adobe Master Suite 2014 (used) for awhile now. ALL of the used copies have vanished.

Why?

I specifically need the 2014 version. It's the latest one that will still run on my 10.8.5 MacBook Pro.

Gary

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As far as the Garden is concerned 2014 wouldn't follow the "10 year rule".
Software listed here must have been out of (commercial) circulation for at least ten years.

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I know about the "10 year rule" - which I find rather arbitrary by the way.

So I'm not asking for an upload. I'm simply trying to find out why used copies of Adobe's software have become non-existent.

Gary

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If you mean CS6, there are three reasons it's hard to find.

#1. They didn't support it very long and not too many copies were actually printed. They sold a lot of licenses through digital download, and it was cracked not long after (you can get Photoshop CS6 on eBay for about $15 and it works great - apart from not having Bridge).

#2. A LOT of photographers jumped to Aperture, Lightroom and the amazingly-free RAW Therapee, who never really liked the "computerness" of Photoshop. And design/art apps like Inskcape have killed-off the need for Illustrator. Dreamweaver was annihilated by both Squarespace and Wordpress. Print media is fading faster than a magazine in the sun, and really the only thing that needs to exist is an HTML5 replacement for Flash - with Flash's awesome ease of use.

#3 And the biggest misstep is simply that Creative suite hasn't really added anything new since CS4 (the one we actually can get). I contracted for a publishing division of a local company using my CS4 on my MDD right along-side my Boss's Adobe CC and it was essentially seamless.

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>If you mean CS6 ...

Actually I mean the next version. They changed naming conventions and started using a year nomenclature after CS6. I'm looking for CC 2014.

Gary

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Adobe's CC license changed recently in a fairly substantial way. For most of the applications, the only versions that those with a subscription are supposed to use now are the current, and previous version, so 2020 and 2019. Official downloads for all older versions have been removed, 2014 will be long gone.

I found this out when trying to get a download for an older version of Audition for use with an older OS.

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Sure fifteen bucks for a working licence of CS6 sound affordable - but what would you do with that without the DVD installers?
I under the impression that almost everything prior to CC was taken down from the net.
The CS6 suite DVD collection is calling for thousand bucks on flea bay on my side.

I´m positive that we will see CS5 and CS6 at the Garden sooner or later.
CS6 seems to be from May 2012, CS5 must be mid 2010?
Really huge uploads for sure.

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These are not official or licensed. They are cracked/cut-down (why Bridge isn't there), but if you just need Photoshop they work FINE. And since Adobe's license servers are all gone, it doesn't seem to matter. Truly though, the only really new thing since CS4 is Content-Aware Fill. And that really is hit-n-miss at best (and something no photographer should ever even need if they are careful how they setup their shots).

I have PS CS6, but actually find myself in CS4 more often because my Powermac is 'Cozier' and what I use more often in "the New" is RAW Therapee - and then move the images from there to the PowerMac. But if you want CS6 cheap (especially if you can us PC), just watch eBay they come up all the time.

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Adobe's license server for CS6 is NOT gone, I just activated my copy on a new machine the other day.

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At least some of the Adobe CC 2014 links at ProDesignTools.com do seem to still work - just make sure to click on the website link they tell you to visit first. They are trial versions, so you'll need a registration code.

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Several years ago I backed up the Win/Mac CS2, Photoshop, Illustrator and Acrobat no-activation installers from Adobe to replace my old, educational copies. Now I can't find my originals, Adobe's links are long gone and my backups are MIA, too. I occasionally do some PS and AI work on my Comet using older OS9 versions, but it'd be nice to run CS2 again, PS and AI especially, on my old Win7 desktop; I know, on a PC Sad

But given my main laptop's an older Chromebook, running anything newer than PS4 on it via Basilisk is out.

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I think I have backed PC version of CS2 too, will check and upload soon

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The big one if you are on PPC is CS4 - it works well for the most part, but really does need CoreImage, otherwise a few previews don't work (like Liquefy). I have both it on my non-CoreImage G4 and also old Photoshop 7, that I use in these rare instances.

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For a Mac capable of running mid-2010s software, you should consider purchasing the Affinity apps. They now require 10.9 Mavericks, though the Mac App Store versions ran on 10.7 up until very recently. If your MacBook Pro can run Mountain Lion (10.8.x), Mavericks can run on it.

Unless your work is paying for it and you're treating it as a rental agreement, I can't give a strong recommendation for Adobe. They've been purging much of their old software within the past year.

You might be stuck with Adobe tooling if you have files that require Adobe and its file formats. For that, you can use a Mac OS X virtual machine to run 10.4, 10.5 or 10.6 with older versions of Adobe software as necessary. With luck, you can use that to export to more widely supported formats.

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The Affinity products do seem to be, almost, good alternatives to Adobe's "big three" apps (InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop) for most non-professional and even some professional print media users, but there is one exception - there's no Affinity replacement for Acrobat. There are a couple of other apps by other companies which may be good enough replacement for Acrobat, but I haven't looked into those.

Apple's Final Cut Pro is already in many ways better and certainly easy to use than Adobe Premiere. I'm not sure if there's a replacement for Adobe Dreamweaver as such, there are certainly other website creation apps that are easier to use for relatively simple websites, but I don't know if any are as powerful when it comes to the more specific parts. The rest of Adobe's apps I've never had any use for, so don't know much about them at all.

They've been purging much of their old software within the past year.

The excuse that has been given is that Adobe has lost the rights to use something-or-other in their apps, so they claim anybody using the older versions to create things could face legal action from the original rights holders ... which of course is simply nonsense since those users paid Adobe for the apps and the agreement includes the right to use that whatever-it-is part. To save their customers from this problem, Adobe have simply stopped selling / allowing the download of the older versions and "encourage" users to upgrade.

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I've been fond of the Mac/iOS exclusive PDFPen, which still has all old versions available for download.

According to their support page:

A current version license of PDFpen v.11 gives you access to any previous version. Contact support for assistance on registering the version you want to use.

This license will also work in the future to register PDFpen v.11 should you update to it.

It does tend to get good discounts through sales like Winterfest and other channels if you shop around.