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eWorld

I recently got this which I kinda don't want to open since it's sealed and eWorld stuff is rare as is.

My question is, is anyone interested in the software contained within or is eWorld software can be found elsewhere? All I could find in the past was the "eWorld Tour" which is basically just a slideshow -- if that is still the case I can open and upload the contents here.

Let me know! Smile

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From what I read, eWorld was akin to FirstClassClient - dead in the water for decades too.
If eWorld is a rare collectible, I would not open it, as it will be unusable - all servers providing the flesh and bones have been unplugged in 1996.

R.I.P:

eWorld.png

You sure saw the JAVA/HTML walkthrough here: http://www.andreagrell.de/eworld/

There seems to be an ISO available: https://archive.org/details/Apple_691-0692_eWorld_Apple_Online_Service_1995
That should do for the curious.

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Yep, I saw the walkthrough but I was unaware that an ISO actually existed. I was kinda curious about the guidebook that came with it and it would be an excuse for me to open the package but oh well Tongue

I read somewhere that it was based on/powered by AOL services(?) I wish someone had some transcripts of the communication so we could try to reverse-engineer it and come up with something like QuantumLink Reloaded but I highly doubt that exists.

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Still, for archival reasons it would be good to have Disk Copy 4.2 disk images made (if on floppy) and especially if possible, scans of the covers (and documentation too if not too much bother).

The iso at archive.org BTW, consists of a 2 MB installer file and 360 MBs of blank space (I checked for hidden files too) - a huge download for a 2 MB file...

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OK, I'll extract it from the CD once I get home. I've downloaded that ISO too, it's so strange.

I've also managed to get it to connect to a local server running on my computer (download the file, install "eWorld MacTCP" option, open it in an HEX editor and you'll see it's trying to connect to "goto.eworld.com" using port 5190)

And surprise: it seems to be using the (very old) AOL protocol

Here's what it is sending while trying to connect:
5a 5f b0 00 34 7f 7f a3 0c fc 00 00 00 00 00 41 0c 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 60 10 00 00 23 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ...

and here's a snippet from that protocol file:
5A413800347F7FA3036B0100F5000000050F00002152CBCA070A1000080400000000....

If people are interested, I can try to at least make it think it's connected, not sure if it would go anywhere but might be a nice experiment.

UPDATE:
Changing the IP to "americaonline.aol.com" gets this which is amazing (at least to me) to be honest.

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I was hoping rather that you had the floppy disk distribution in that package and hoped to get floppy images of the original media. No matter, whatever comes is good.

See this Wikipedia entry for pix of eWorld floppy media

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if Apple sold off its eWorld technology to AOL or there was some deal going on there. - Also from that Wikipedia page:

    On March 31, 1996, at 12:01 am Pacific Time, the service was officially shut down. Remaining eWorld subscribers were offered incentives to switch to AOL, which began hosting Macintosh-oriented content developed with Apple.

Your screenshot about the beta testers is interesting, it could be a left-over from its early evolution. - Again a quote sourced from the above linked page:

    On January 5, 1994, Apple announced eWorld at the 1994 Macworld Conference & Expo, where they invited attendees to become beta testers for the service. On June 20 of that year, the service went into full operation.

If you do manage to get it to connect to your own server, it could be fun to have a mock eWorld running.

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I think eWorld was just a rebranded AOL client, and they just turned off the goto.eworld.com proxy as a part of the "shutdown."

I just tried using AOL 2.5 and I got the exact same message, although I remember AOL 2.5 working a few years back. Maybe if I tried it back then it would actually sign in, but I guess it's too late now. I guess with that documentation I can at least trick it into thinking it signed in, but that would probably the most I can do now that AOL turned off support.

From that documentation, it looks like it is using something called FDO, which you can think of as HTML: without the actual pages, all we can do is reverse engineer FDO and recreate screens from screenshots, which is, well a bit too much work.

Plus I have a project idea (somewhat related to this) that I'll post in a few days Tongue

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Today with an old Colour Classic, I got OS 8.0 Install CD, but also the pair of eWorld floppy disks in their original packaging (exactly as I remember picking them up from an Apple / MacWorld / MacUser expo when it was released).

I shall make an effort to image them at the weekend, as it means firing up the SE, attaching the Farallon iPrint adapter and trying to get it talking to another Mac.
I'll make an effort to scan everything too. I'll also be trying to get the CC working.