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Delisted from Google?

I just noticed that macintoshgarden.org does not appear in any Google search listing, including "site:" searches. Has Google begun delisting abandonware sites, or is this specific to Macintosh Garden?
Scratch that, even DuckDuckGo doesn't list it, so I'm assuming it's just an aggressive robots.txt and not something nefarious. Ah well, the built-in search is pretty good. Smile

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Yeah - stumbled across this too when setting up a new OS on my redundant oldies.
The web crawlers usually merely find Mac Garden.com and some references.

One may always type in http://macintoshgarden.org/ in the browser´s address field to find the start page though.

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Joined: 2009 Mar 21

Hey guys. What can we do to get back in Google's good books?

If this is a robots.txt then we should fix this. Being in search engines is good thing yeah?

MikeTomTom's picture
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Being in search engines is good thing yeah?

No, it really isn't. As we don't sell stuff, its of no value at all. WOM seems to work just fine.

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Maybe too much OS X stuff on the site recently that cannot be considered abandonware?! Maybe admins schould check out on this and delete.

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If I type "macintosh garden" at Google search website, I get the old Macintosh garden webpage "www.macintoshgarden.com" as top item of the hit list. That has been for at least the last 4 years (maybe even longer). Maybe it is a Drupal-specific issue that prevents Google's crawler to scan (robots.txt or dynamic on-the-fly webpage creation using a database)?

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It might be a blessing in disguise. Copyright trolls won't get results from casual google searching and everyone who wants to find old Mac software knows to come here anyway.

MadMac's picture
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Yes baku, i was thinking the same. We don’t need another crapmail like that €Å takedown notice...

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Did anyone notice this site is indexed in Google again?

Well, not a lot of it is indexed, and nothing gets a description, but it is at least the first result when searching for "Macintosh Garden."

Here's the total index:

https://www.google.com/search?q=macintosh+garden&rlz=1CASMAI_enKR705KR70...

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The crawler bots seem to get banned every now and then, so its probably one of the reason indexing halts Tongue

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But we want the bots to be banned, don't we, to keep a low profile and avoid the attention of para-legals chasing absurd automated copyright claims? Do you use robots.txt (or is it a noindex tag that is required instead)? If not, that seems like a good idea.

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(sshh..maybe they can hear us)
Owhay boutay eway eakspay ikelay isthay? (no way, spellchk likes it!)

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LOL, that might be a good idea, except that there might be some users who can't understand that.

(I can barely understand it, although in my case it's probably a side effect of the mild autism-spectrum disorder I have. And then there's also the fact that my eyes seem to be going bad at 17 years of age. Tongue)

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That was this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_Latin

It gets used the most by people who want to say things to each other but not be understood when in the company of a child or a pet. "Idofay is oingay to the etvay!" The fact that my phone's spellchecker is 100% compatible means it won't fool a clever bot. Probably even red flags a discussion for closer scrutiny, damned if u do damned if u don't.

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Word games remind of the strangest feature on the unix side of Mac OS X, anybody not know about the "spook" command? To see it in action, go into Terminal and type "emacs", then press Esc, press 'x', then type "spook". What you see is randomly generated, so see more by again pressing Esc, pressing 'x', typing "spook". One way to Leave emacs is by pressing ctrl + 'z'.

It blurts out about 15 lines from a database of words or phrases which deliberately pissoff spies, why, dunno. I wouldnt repeat any here&now out of respect. See the whole database in the (hidden?) file "/usr/share/emacs/21.2/etc/spook.lines", this "usr" folder is the Unix System Resources. Spook is actually one of a bunch of "word games" built into emacs.

Edit: uhh, this "emacs" is a text utility whose name is derived from the word "macro", it's not a reference to Mac hardware, it's a fixture in the Unix command line.

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Delisted from Google?

I hope so.