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CD AUDIO ON POWER MACINTOSH G3 MINITOWER

Yesterday i was trying to run some games with audio cd (music directly from cd) but with no success like Colonization, Quake and Warcraft. I mean, that the music wasn't playing. Colonization has a jukebox but although i was clicking on the buttons (play etc) nothing happened. Other games ran just fine with their cd music like Zero Critical, Blackthorne and Imperialism II. Is there an adjustment that i have to do on my computer? It is the Power Macintosh G3 Minitower 300mhz.

I do not have this problem on my Performa 6116CD where on all the above games, the music starts automatically.

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Are you sure Apple CD Player is installed on that machine?

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Yes i have the apple cd player installed. In the extensions i have the cd and dvd inside (i have a dvd rom drive). The following games run perfectly with their audio cd music:

Descent 1 & 2, Zero Critical, Blackthorne, Imperialism I & II, Heroes of Might and Magic.

I cannot get music from Quake, Warcraft I and Colonization. When i run the Apple cd player, the music plays just fine of all these three games where i see all the tracks and i can choose which one i want to hear. But in the game there is no music. Colonization has a jukebox inside the game but it has no result. It is like i run the games without the cd inside. I do not have this problem with my Macintosh Performa 6116CD.

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Warcraft 1 is very finicky about CD audio, but I know one additional step in the user manual is to go into the Sound settings, select the input device, and make sure the CD drive and "Play sound through this device" are selected. Some games don't even bother trying to play CD audio if playthrough isn't reported, so that may be worth checking.

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At the beginning of Warcraft 2 there is an option for sound in source. There i choose the "cd" option and it works. Warcraft 1 does not have this option. In the game, at the preferences there is option to disable and enable the cd audio and also option for the volume. But nothing works. There is no music at all.

Colonization has a jukebox inside the game, like a cd player but nothing works. There is no music, the jukebox does nothing. The same for the songs that you may choose.

The above games, Warcraft and Colonization run also without the cd inside the drive. The same for Quake. Even when i have them inside the drive there is no sound. It is like i do not have anything inside.

All the above games run perfectly with their cd audio on my Macintosh Performa 6116CD with Sonnet G3 installed.

Also, other games run perfectly with the their cd audio music on my Power Macintosh G3 Minitower. These are: Zero Critical, Descent, Imperialism 1 & 2, Blackthorne, Carmageddon 1 & 2.

These three games run great on my Macintosh Performa 6116 but i want to play Quake on the G3 Minitower because i can have bigger resolution (Sony 15" monitor and ATI Radeon 7000 Mac Edition 32mb ram, my Performa is connected with the fixed 640x480 Macintosh Color Display Monitor) but i want also the scary music. Is there a possibility that all this has to do with the Wings Personality card?

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Oh, sorry to have caused confusion! I was referring to the system Sound settings, so you'd need to click the Apple logo, go to Control Panels -> Sound -> Input and select Playthrough for the internal CD there. Honestly, I'm not sure if it'll help since the program should check for playthrough itself, but these old games are tricky.

Is your G3 using the original, built-in Apple CD drive? Games like Warcraft 1 make some very specific assumptions about the system to play music, but by Warcraft 2, Blizzard improved compatibility to work with more configurations. SheepShaver recently gained CD audio support, and we encountered similar issues. Games like Descent and Warcraft 2 happily play CD audio from emulated non-Apple drives, but Warcraft 1 and some others do not yet cooperate.

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This is interesting. For cd audio i always go to sound in panel and check the cd option. It's something i always check and change because i use also the Roland Sound Canvas SC88 for general midi sound for Sierra Online games and i have to check the mic for sound input. The music of the above mentioned games play successfully when i run the apple cd audio program to listen a music cd but it doesn't play inside the game. My Power Macintosh G3 Minitower has a dvd player and it must be original apple's player. Yesterday i played with success Carmageddon 2.

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As I owned the same machine as yours several years ago, I was wondering something specific to it. Is your DVD drive connected to the mb or to the internal “Personality card”? Some functionalities should require that card to work properly. I have not tested myself 'cause I was not aware before I've given my machine to someone else... Sad

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Happy new year to all. I haven't opened my powermac to see where is the drive connected but i can say that i just downloaded the update file for Quake and now i have audio music.