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Calling all hackers - a list of old software that needs hacking

After the successful attempt to fill some gaps within our 80’s Mac software library, let’s try the next step.

We’ve got lots of software on here archived in a pristine state. Unfortunately, that also means these titles retain their copy-protection, rendering them unusable. (Be it the requirement for a master floppy to be inserted or a short-sighted online-activation scheme)

You can not only help to preserve the software, but to keep it accessible as well. The general idea is to add a separate - hacked - version download to the pages. If you can provide some info on how you hacked a title along with it, all the better!

Here’s a list of titles in needs of hacking:

4th & Inches

Unclear what needs to be done.

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Cubase 2.5.1r3

Requires a Master Disk. Any way to bypass it?
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Hacker II: The Doomsday Papers

Unclear what hacking needs to be done

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MacRobots

Requires a Master Disk. Instructions for cracking the game are "out there", but they do not work on this version of the game.

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MacWars

The game has a severe protection. It reboots after the title screen ...

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Morgan's Trivia Machine Jr.

Requires a crack to allow play without a master CD-ROM

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Seven Cities of Gold

Currently the game requires a Master Disk to play, so a crack is needed to bypass this requirement.

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Soft Windows 1.03

v. 1.0.3 is very picky about the key for full activation. Who knows a solution?

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The Toy Shop

Unclear what hacking needs to be done
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Tass Times in Tonetown

Unclear what hacking needs to be done
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Temple of Apshai Trilogy

Currently the game requires a Master Disk to play, so a crack is needed to bypass this requirement. See jkheiser's comment on the game page for more details.

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The Lüscher Profile

Unknown what needs to be done.

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Websters Revenge

Needs sector copy protection lifted.

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Please note:
This list is in no-way complete. Please point to other software that needs a hack. Feel free to discuss your efforts in this thread.

Success stories:

iTunes Skin Master successfully hacked by hamburger

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mrdav's picture
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Don't forget MacRobots. That needs hacking too. Not on the Garden but there is the link I mentioned in the other thread. Maybe I should make a page for it?

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Yes, please! Upload it and then we'll add a link to it here.

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Aaand SoftWindows 1.0.3 should be on top of that list! Wink

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Thanks! And added Smile

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iTunes Skin Master 1.1
Missing serial to convert to full version. Company is long gone.

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Yep. Good one too. Added it to the list. Thanks!

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I didn't find a single serial for iTunes Skin Master, but hey, after 2-3 nights of running that bloated piece of C++ through macsbug (and restlessness), I did manage to whack it to the point both the startup and quit nag screen no longer appear, and custom skins do work (well for me at the very least, there's no longer any "demo" watermark on applied custom skins). Meanwhile, the splash still says 'demo', and the registration dialog works as before. I don't know if it's a good idea to use the upload/download feature, so since feature-wise it's essentially functional I'd say looks sufficient to me.

If someone wants to test it, I'm putting it here when I get up cause right now I'm pretty thrashed.

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Sweet! It sounds way more functional than it was and a great addition for GUI junkies like myself Smile

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Took some extra time, the app was quitting too early and the prefs were not getting written to disk. Fixed that.

See https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/itunes-skin-master-11 (and my comment)

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Nice work! I'll test this afternoon when I get home from work. Thanks!

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Cubase 2.5.1r3

Works fine from the disk image (made using ShrinkWrap), but there doesn't seem to be an easy way of copying it to an actual diskette or installing it to a hard drive. Plus, the image is a SMI—a self-mounting archive—and doesn't launch on its own in its intended (pre-system 7) environment.

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Have uploaded a backwards compatible image (for SSW 6 or newer) to that page. Disk Copy 4.2 image with date & time stamps restored (the original upload was written to, in 2020).

-mind, this topic is for finding cracks/hacks to old software, not for system compatibility issues.

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Thanks for that. But I mentioned that only as an offhand to the fact that it requires a master disk, which was only preserved in the original image. You will note that trying to run the copy you uploaded does not work, sadly. "This is an unauthorized copy. Please insert your Cubase master disk..."

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Oh bummer. Sorry about that. It's one of "those" disks then. In which case it really does need some attention.

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I've replaced my previous upload with one that works in 6 & 7. - the only method I found that works was by converting the self-mounting disk image to a DiskDup+ image. Still the same drawbacks associated with the image but at least it is now possible to run it in SSW 6. I used the Grenier archive for the disk conversion, as it has additional files (System 6 DA's etc) that weren't present in the MacGUI derived copy.

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https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macintosh-patch-hack-list-34

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MacRobots
Morgan's Trivia Machine Jr.

Bolkonskij's picture
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thanks! added both to the list Smile

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I was wondering if a request like this would be... Wink Good! I'll help as I can, of course. But, just FYI, note that some of (very old) softwares requires some hardware, like for example Kryoflux or SuperCard Pro (not the famous software, here Smile) and will not run under "classic" emulators, but specifics like PCE-Mac. So, the question is: Is there a way to remove this kind of protection from a copy-protected software?

[EDIT] See my post about SoftWindows. Thanks.

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Could you please add Cinepak Toolkit 1.0 + Cinepak Pro 1.0 to the list?

For me, it stopped right before encoding a video file and complained that the serial was not valid for the computer (apparently, the serial was entered on the original Mac and the programs' installed files were archived after)

By the way, what happened when you tested this software? (I only remember that it wasn't a good outcome)

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Have you tried there?
http://phussa.net/ss/var/C.htm

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Fixed version will be uploaded.

PS
Uploaded. Please test it.

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Thank you, Eastone, I will! Laughing out loud

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Does it work? Or should I still add it to the list?

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I have to run it on my Win server but it's not in a good location Sad and when I try remoting in to run QEMU, once QEMU 'captures' the mouse, the mouse goes totally haywire; this forces me to have to do it right at the server's location, which is very uncomfortable.

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Does this run under Basilisk-II?

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I don't see why it shouldn't, why don't you give it a spin and see? Smile

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Looks like there is another damned for the "sentence" Smile: MacWars...

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Did anyone test the cracked iTunes Skin Master 1.1 I've uploaded a week ago? Got no feedback whether it works for anyone else so far.
If it's good (or if it's not), I'm interested to know.

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I'll test it when I get home today, and report back. Keep an eye on the comments on that page...

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It works just fine, as far as I got into it (some window and controls editing). I'd say that this is more useful now. Thanks for your work!

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I've NEVER EVER seen "Déjà Vu", the tile memory game from Rubicon Publishing, anywhere online since I started looking in the late 90's for old Mac software. It seems to be a forgotten title. This is not the Icom Simulations adventure game with the point and click + window game here, but a totally unrelated tile reveal memory game where you match pairs and can play hotseat or against an AI.

It has a full page ad in the very first MacUser issue of October 1985 (page 89). You can find it here https://vintageapple.org/macuser/pdf/MacUser_8510_Premier_Issue_October_1985.pdf

I have a physical copy of the original game, no box (maybe it came in a bag, maybe in a flimsly miminal sleeve, it was so long ago) and to my knowledge, that game has some master disk copy protection. I've been able to make duplicates by using DiskDup since I still want to play it and my 3 year old daughter loves playing it. We use the "success" and "failure" sounds of that game in all sorts of unrelated situations together, it's a blast!

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That's fantastic, Mu0n!

Do the DiskDup+ copies run the game? They would be wonderful to have, even if they are not the typical archival formats we usually post here, no worries there!

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I often get them confused. DiskDup 1.2.3+ Pro does not copy the game, there's an error during the reading phase as there's probably a bad sector.

The duplicate I successfully made, which ran flawlessly as well as the original, was with Copy II Mac 5.4.

Maybe someone can crack this with Macsbug or TMON, I tried simply copying the contents of the disk into a 400kb image file made with DiskDup 1.3.2+. I transfered it into my PC, probably losing the resource fork of that file, but it opens FINE inside mini-vMac on my Windows 7 machine. Not as a boot disk, but as a regular disk once you're in the Finder by your own means.

The behavior: when you attempt to run the game, it goes to a black screen, beeps, and freezes. You gotta restart the machine.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BdTCL03Z3IVRQ8Rhs3PJMhNRsdRCeT8G/view?u...

if you want a crack at it, get it from that link.

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I don't have the time to hack at it, but IIRC, it expects a bad block error return from the floppy when reading and incorporates this into the logic flow of the loader code. So a simple null operation won't fix it, but jumping over the routine might work -- or working out what it expects to go into the register and manually populating that.

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I think iTunes Skin Master can be considered tested and safely cracked Smile

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Thanks for that crack update, Swamprock… real good seeing you, too; it's been a few Wink

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Yeah, our first "success story". Thank to hamburger for his good job on this one. I've deleted it from the "Needs hacking" list and added it to a new section that'll hopefully soon gets populated some more Smile

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Webster's Revenge looks as though it still needs sector copy protection lifted.

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Good suggestion, thanks! Added to the list Smile

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Hey! Don't forget that one, of course, please. Thanks. Wink

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oh my, thanks for pointing out! I've added MacWars to the list. Sometimes it is hard to keep track of all the posts with the forums software here.

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YW! Thanks. Yep, I understand that it could be not really easy. And particularly if you are already busy elsewhere. Wink