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Apple's older software downloads down

We've had minor periods where this URL has failed to load, but it was usually brought back within a week or so.

Now it's been almost two weeks and it's down. The *only* thing I can find that gets close to it is this page: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA48312

I tried doing searches for random stuff listed there, such as looking for "quicktime mac Indeo_Video_4.smi.bin" to see what would come up with, in case the link has moved. Still nothing.

I think we need a mirror of this page. I reference it a number of times for the Guide but I may have to pull the URL off the pages. Because their robots.txt forbids crawlers, it's not backed up by archive.org or anybody else.

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Kind of looks like your Apple Support page link is referring to the old "Apple Software Updates" ftp/http pages that have since disappeared from Apple.

Fortunately there were a few mirrors made. Here's three you can bookmark:

FTP Mirror Your ORG
FTP iiNet Net AU

For the older US English Mac software, click the "English-North_American" link on each of the above and dig in.

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So this url, http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html -- how would that be different from the KB I posted? I figured the KB was basically a index page, but not the actual download page which was the oldersoftwarelist.html page.

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Because the content of the page link you originally gave, is reporting incomplete, relative URLs to the original ftp "Apple Software Updates" site.

A public FTP site which used to be freely available on Apple's servers.

Using your own example: "quicktime mac Indeo_Video_4.smi.bin". - Viewed as:
"Macintosh/System/QuickTime/Indeo_Video_4.smi.bin", on the linked page in your OP

This would have originally pointed to this directory:
::/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/QuickTime

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I didn't see Sys6 under International or Australian (actually, there is no system installers under Australian). Anything ending in Z is Australian ready tho Smile

I have been known to miss little things like that tho... Wink

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Oh, the International English users get SSW 6.0.8 and up, Aussie's zer0 Wink

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I do appreciate your help. Thanks a lot!

Right now I'm undecided on whether to give some hints on where to look for the stuff or just include it all in the Download Town. The 7.5.3 CD Install is kind of big though. Advice? I still have time before I release the next version.

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There are a lot of 7.5.3 entries mentioned at the Garden, so you'll need to supply a current link.

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Try this: https://ia700607.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/22/items/download.info....

To get to that, just put a / after the download link for the .zip. This works for most IA filetypes, including .iso.

Also for ftp.apple.com it's there as part of https://archive.org/details/ftpsites_mirrors.vanadac.com .

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Thanks for that info, Balrog. I've only noticed too, the "Contents" link next to the archive DL file size on the item page, does the same thing (adds "/" after the link) and displays the entire content without needing to DL humongous archives. You can also use this to direct-download individual items from an archive, so that's pretty cool.

The mirrors.vanadac collection is huge! Some very interesting archives in there. Of the ftp.apple.com part, it appears to be for "ftp.apple.com/developer" only. Which in itself, is a good thing to have archived & available.

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Is Panther gone as well?
I installed 10.3.0 on an old 400 MHz Titanium and when I ran Software Update I got the "your software is up to date" message.

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Seems they rmvd this from the Software Update, but it's still available on their server:

Apple.com/Support/Mac OS X Combined Update 10.3.9

The Combo 10.2.8 Update is still available, too.

It's time to rescue the files, I think.

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I have those posted here.
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-osx-mac-os-10-ppc

I'm talking about all the other updates that would have been done automatically.
Java - Safari...

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Thread on 68kmla: https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/24063-apple-older-software-do...

Someone says the links still work, just the page is down. Can't see the page in the WayBack Machine because of that blasted robots.txt file.

I always keep 10.2.8 Combo and 10.4.11 Update on any machine that runs those versions. Any time the OS starts acting up, just re-update it. (Same process works for 7.5.5 Update, 7.6.1, 8.1, 8.6, 9.x, ...)