This page is a wiki. Please login or create an account to begin editing.


Toast 5 Titanium

Rating:
Your rating: None Average: 4.9 (22 votes)
Category:
Year released:
Author:
Publisher:
#1
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_501_523_Install.sit (35.50 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#2
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_501_502_Install.img_.sit (6.96 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#3
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_50_Updaters.sit (6.57 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#4
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Roxio_Jam_5_CD.sit (17.48 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#5
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_51_With_Jam.toast_.sit (22.35 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#6
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_51_Updaters.sit (36.82 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#7
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_52_Install.sit (59.98 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#8
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_521_Install_CD.iso (99.40 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#9
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_52_Updaters.sit (21.28 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#10
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast_521_523_App.sit (71.16 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
#11
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
CarbonLib_1.6.smi_.bin (3.00 MB)
For Mac OS 8.5 - 8.6 - Mac OS X
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Toast5.0Manual.pdf
Emulation
This app works with: SheepShaver, QEMU

Fast efficient utility for mounting, burning and creating image files!

Archive now contains versions 5.0.2, the last version compatible with OS 8.6, through 5.2.3, which requires OS 9.1 and will work with 10.1.2 or later, on PPC.

Please do not upload any more versions without asking on this page or in the forum first.

Product Keys or Serials for Roxio Toast 5 Titanium
5.23 YWXX-CGP-USW-DV3-LCUO or SP-HG15N-HP693-S72OR

5.02 C38V-KD0-03H-PMM-U9CX or NZNW-6QH-Z1G-D7T-5RJT

See Also: Astarte Toast 2 | Toast 3 I Toast 4 Deluxe | Toast 6 Titanium | Toast 7 Titanium | Toast 8 TitaniumToast 9 Titanium | Toast 10 Titanium

Compatibility
Architecture: PPC (Carbonized)

There are only 3 updaters required to upgrade from version 5.0 in order to get you to ver. 5.2.3
That is what the first download includes plus a serializer.
"Toast Titanium 5.1.1 Update" to update from 5.0.x to get you to ver. 5.1.1
"Toast Titanium 5.2.1 Update" to update from 5.1.x to get you to ver. 5.2.1
"Toast Titanium 5.2.3 Update" to update from 5.2.1 to get you to ver. 5.2.3

All versions of Toast 5 will run (but not install) in 8.6 if you install Carbon Lib 1.6.

Comments

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2019, October 3 - 9:13am

@Jatoba: Thanks, it looks good, mounts fine with date and time stamps unmodified. Perfect Smile

Jatoba's picture
by Jatoba - 2019, October 3 - 6:55am

The Virtual Utility also mounts all images as locked by default

That, I did not know. I'm even more amazed by that utility now.

Those are sound arguments. I guess there's also the fact locked images are more bothersome to mount (because of the extra dialog box) for the general user. And if people want to lock the file after downloading, they still can.

The ".iso" is being uploaded now to replace the other 2 files. EDIT: Done!

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2019, October 3 - 2:57am

about the ".bin" wrapper, there's one thing that made me consider it: Creator/Type codes and, in particular, to have the image file pre-locked, once decoded. To my knowledge, on Mac, non-locked images aren't preserved in their purest state once mounted

The newest version of the Virtual CD/DVD Utility includes a handy Creator/Type restore dropper which turns a generic icon into a native Virtual CD/DVD Utility icon (double-click and it mounts the image without needing to launch the Utility separately). The Virtual Utility also mounts all images as locked by default, so mounted images do not get written to by that app, and there's no need to lock any image it mounts.

Toast will have no issue with mounting a generic Creator/Type code-less image, it will read from the data fork and determine it's OK as is. But manually locking the image may be required before mounting it.

Mac OS X will go by the ".iso" suffix file-name ending and give it to Disk Image Mounter to mount - but again, manually locking the image may be required before mounting it, if the downloader wants to preserve date and time stamps.

The Toast image in question appears to be unmodified since time of creation. Uploading it here as a raw .iso, preserves this, so it is fine IMO to upload it here as is for archiving. What someone does with it after this is up to them. I don't think most people downloading it will care one way or the other, will likely use it once to install and then toss it in the Trash. Those who do care about such things will probably (like myself) ensure all DL'd mountable archives are read-only, out of habit.

But if you feel it's more appropriate to include it in a .bin wrapper, then do so, I'll leave it up to you. I'm OK with whatever you decide, I just don't think it's necessary for this particular iso, but that's also just my opinion.

Jatoba's picture
by Jatoba - 2019, October 3 - 2:15am

@MTT Will do. But first, about the ".bin" wrapper, there's one thing that made me consider it: Creator/Type codes and, in particular, to have the image file pre-locked, once decoded. To my knowledge, on Mac, non-locked images aren't preserved in their purest state once mounted, because it accepts write operations to them, and there are things the Mac system writes to the image by default in that case. Of course, this is only relevant from a "historical preservation" perspective, and that too only if we can assume the ".toast" file in question has never been mounted that way before.

Thoughts? I personally don't mind it eitherway (".iso" or ".iso.bin"). All is set for uploading.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2019, October 3 - 1:20am

Re: Toast_521_Install_CD.toast_.sit (97.83 MB) vs. Toast_521_Install_CD.img_.bin (97.43 MB)

Hi Jatoba. You made some good points there and the Virtual CD/DVD Utility is certainly the way to mount this .toast on classic Mac OS systems. The .img file is also a less useful addition as it doesn't preserve the original CD (and primarily, ISO archives of originals are always preferred here).

I made some "speed tests" of my own. On a i5 CPU box running a 32bit XP, it took 28 seconds to extract the .toast from the ".sit", using the commandline "unar.exe" (The Unarchiver) to extract the image.

On a G4 1GHz eMac with standard IDE drive, it took 3 minutes 17 secs to complete the extraction.

FalconFour also made a good observation that very little space was obtained by compression of this particular image.

-----
Regarding re-uploading the .toast renamed as .iso in a .bin wrapper:

By all means re-upload the .toast, renamed as ".iso" that will be great. However, don't bother uploading this one in a .bin wrapper as there is no point with this toast/iso file type, just the raw .iso will be fine. It will mount OK using the Virtual CD/DVD Utility and Mac OS X won't have a problem with it either.

Just to note; MacBinary (.bin) is not a compression algorithm, it only combines both forks of a classic Mac file into a single file as input and recombines the .bin file to it's respective forks in it's ouput. There is no advantage in using MacBinary on archives if they do not need Macintosh dual fork protection, such as .toast, .iso, .cdr, etc etc.

Also. There is very little point uploading a further compressed file if it only saves a couple of MB's over several 10's of MB's to GB's of data. Having it here as a raw Toast/ISO file is better, as it would mean there is no double-handling required by the downloader and a saving of disk space required to extract, i.e.; ".sit" (or .bin) file size plus extracted ".toast/.iso" file size, requires twice the disk space of a single .toast/.iso download.

Jatoba's picture
by Jatoba - 2019, October 2 - 6:30pm

@FalconFour
Hi. Welcome to MG, and it is appreciated that people want to improve things. That's always a good thing!

With that said, do know you do not need Toast to use a Toast image. In fact, to mount images, an incredibly lightweight, often-prefered option is Virtual CD/DVD-ROM Utility. You can also safely rename ".toast" files to ".iso" if desired. It's basically the same thing. Or just use Disk Copy, which you yourself used to create the new file.

Also, about SIT packages, do know that although they can compress, they don't necessarily have to, and most of the time these days, it is not used for compression, but for online and other forms of networked distribution of Mac files in a way that preserves resource forks. The fact it was 100MB "compressed" and 101MB decompressed is done to save you time by having less processing being necessary to decompress the file, by making it non-compressed in the first place, but just packaged. (Adjusted compression level.)

However! Since this is indeed only 1 single file, and not multiple files and/or a folder, it is true that SIT isn't necessary in this case, and just introduces unnecessary, insane overhead, so you can BinHex it the way you did, as long as it's ".bin" and not, say, ".hqx", which silently fails during download in some setups, apparently.

Nonetheless, I don't know what you have been doing wrong with your "7th gen i7" setup, but my SSD-equipped Mac mini G4 1.5GHz with Mac OS 9.2.2 decompressed the original ".toast.sit" file with StuffIt Expander 7.0.3 in precisely only 2 minutes and 58 seconds. I used a stopwatch. It's safe to estimate your 500 MHz G3 would have taken roughly 10 minutes, if also equipped with an SSD, which is nothing even remotely close to being as dramatic as you reported.

For comparison, I took your ".bin" download and decoded it using the exact same setup. It took exactly 9 seconds to get it decoded, which IS an astounding improvement of around 20x the speed, as I mentioned it would be, 2 paragraphs back.

However, neither Toast (which someone could be using an earlier version of to install this newer version) nor Virtual CD/DVD-ROM Utility are able to mount the image you created. And Virtual CD/DVD-ROM mounts images faster than Disk Copy. So that's also a point to consider. You also didn't need to compress the .img itself, because not only almost no space was saved, this introduces two problems:
- The time to mount the image unnecessarily slightly increases.
- If the resource fork is lost, the ".img" file becomes useless, which it otherwise wouldn't. It's slight, but this issue does make the image a bit less prone to survive over time, as people share the file down the line, especially because many people may think it's safe to store and share it without proper Mac encoding or compression, as ".img" is a common image format also outside the Mac world, as has tragically happened in the past. Not compressing aside, this can also be avoided by using ".iso" or ".toast" like the original upload.

TL;DR Both your and the original download could be improved by combining the best of both worlds: avoid ".img" and ".sit" for this version of Toast or, at the very least, don't compress the ".img" file.

I'm more than willing to reupload the original ".toast" file (perhaps renamed to ".iso" to avoid confusion) encoded as ".bin" instead of ".sit". Does anyone know if there's any problem that could be caused from using ".bin" instead of ".sit" in this case? I ask just to be more certain.

Though IMO, as we can see, this whole issue wasn't even much of an issue in the first place, so it seems blown out of proportion. Having left it as is seemed more than fine, with perhaps the addition of a link in the description to Virtual CD/DVD-ROM Utility for mounting ".toast" files, or include a statement saying ".toast" files can be mounted by Disk Copy just fine.

FalconFour's picture
by FalconFour - 2019, October 2 - 8:52am

So, the package here for 5.21 is really, really bad. It's a Toast image wrapped in a SIT packed so tightly my 7th gen i7 struggled to decompress it - it was going to take an eternity on my 500MHz G3. And it only decompressed from 100mb to 101mb. Waste of every conceivable thing! Then, it's a Toast image, which needs Toast, and it is Toast, so you need Toast to install Toast.

Screw that noise. I'm uploading a repackaged version - a Disk Image compressed copy created with Mac OS 9.2.2, wrapped in a MacBinary II package from Stuffit. Worked rather hard to make sure this all worked out.

I'm having to ignore the warning about uploading new versions, because I'm pretty sure I'm going to forget and/or not care if I have to bother that hard... seems like a clear cut case of better packaging. Delete mine or the other if you want to deduplicate.

WhosIt.There's picture
by WhosIt.There - 2016, December 23 - 4:45am

There are some add-ons (both Apple and third-party) like PC Exchange which can automatically set the File Type and Creator codes based on the "incoming" file's filename extension.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2016, December 23 - 3:13am

@spf1954:
Classic Mac OS file's "Creator Type" and "File Type" codes are not stored in a file's resource fork but in the catalog tree of the HFS/HFS+ disk that the file is created on or moved to by the Finder. These don't get stored on a server running *nix or some NT/Win flavor (exceptions would be servers running NetaTalk and served read/write to a classic Mac OS).

Classic applications (and only the apps, not their files) store info about files that they use, in their own resource fork and must declare the OSType signatures of the files they intend to manage to the OS, so that the Finder knows what to do when a user double-clicks an icon. This is why periodically on a classic Mac system, you need to "Rebuild the Desktop Database Files" in order for the Finder to update its internal database (give "generic" icons their correct icons) and remove corrupted file signatures.

StuffIt ".sit" archives do not contain Macintosh resource forks, they are data only files and are safe to move and store "as is" onto servers over networks.

"Drag and Drop" is fine when used to extract StuffIt compatible archives with StuffIt Expander, including all of the above .sit downloads (+ .bin, .cpt, .hqx, etc;).

By all means launch an application and choose "Open" and navigate to where your files are located. However and fortunately for us; In a classic Mac OS, StuffIt Expander ignores any "Creator Type" and "File Type" signatures present or otherwise when opening files. It instead relies on reading the 1st few bytes of a file's data fork to tell it what to do (if it can or cannot extract an archive's content). This occurs whether you use the "Open file x", or the "Drag & Drop" methods - both work here.

Not all classic Mac applications are so forgiving, DiskDup+ and Compact Pro, for example require the "Creator Type" and "File Type" signatures to be "correct" before they will even attempt to open their own files ("Open file x", or the "Drag & Drop" methods - both fail) if their own OSTypes are not present for a file at a given location.

The classic Macintosh OS is the culprit at fault when receiving archives from non-classic Mac locations if it doesn't know what OSType a file should be. It "helpfully" assigns a ???? or TEXT or JPEG etc; OSType signature to its database for that file and file's location when the incoming file may be something entirely different. Hence "thestigmister's" error messages "Couldn't display 'file_name.sit' because a suitable graphics importer could not be found" - sounds very much like the OS has assigned Graphic Convertor (or some other bitmap editor's) OSTypes to incoming .sit files on his classic Mac system Tongue

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2016, December 22 - 4:07pm

First of all, as we all know file extensions are meaningless in Classic OS (but totally meaningful in OSX).
I'm not sure "Drag and Drop" will work if the resource fork is missing. As the reason the target application lights up when you drag over it is because it sees a match between the file type code and the types of files the application understands. The surest way is to open the application first and then use the application's "File" drop down menu to manually select and "Open" the file.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2016, December 21 - 9:17pm

Everytime I try to run any of these files, I end up with this error message:
"Couldn't display 'file_name.sit' because a suitable graphics importer could not be found"

Try dragging the .sit file onto the StuffIt Expander application's icon or alias/shortcut and releasing the mouse button when StuffIt's icon highlights or darkens.

The classic Macintosh OS Finder relies on "Creator Type" and "File Type" codes to know what app to launch and open files when you double-click them. These codes are stripped from files when they travel across networks consisting of non-classic Mac OS servers. The classic Mac OS Finder doesn't know how to deal with these "generic" files and it is likely the reason why you're getting those error messages.

Dragging these .sit files over onto StuffIt Expander 5.5 or newer should see them extract OK.

thestigmister's picture
by thestigmister - 2016, December 21 - 7:34pm

Everytime I try to run any of these files, I end up with this error message:
"Couldn't display 'file_name.sit' because a suitable graphics importer could not be found"
I'm trying to run this on an actual PowerPC. Specifically the PowerMac G4 AGP which is running Mac OS 9.0.4.
The graphics card according to the Apple system profiler is named 'ATY, Rage128Ps' and model 'ATY, Rage128Pro' with 16mb VRAM.
This issue also applys to other programs I try to install with .sit files. Not all since I was able to install Classilla which is a .sit file and I'm using it to type this up.
Thanks

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2016, April 19 - 4:30am

I think the titles are self explanatory (and in chronological order).
The question is: What OS are you trying to run Toast on?
That will dictate what version you want to install and what version you can update to.

A lot depends on what OS you are running and if you are using a real machine or an emulator.
5.0 requires MacOS 8.6
5.1 requires MacOS 9.1 - 10.2
5.2 requires MacOS 9.1 - 10.4.11

An actual install of 5.2 from CD requires OS 9.1 or later.
However if you have a working 5.2.3 folder you can use it in MacOS 8.6 by installing Carbon Lib.
5.2.3 is also compatible with OSX through at least Tiger (10.4.x).

What updater you need depends on what version you are currently at and where are you trying to get to. As you can see there are about 10 different versions of Toast 5 (5.0 - 5.2.3) and three major releases (5.0, 5.1 and 5.2). In addition some versions were available on CD while others were only upgrades (for example 5.1 requires a valid installation of 5). I believe that Jam was originally an add on and not part of any install (hence the separate Jam installer). The downloads are roughly in chronological order and I had hoped the file names would be self-explanatory.

The first file is Toast 5.0 with the updates needed to get you to 5.2.3.
Downloads that have "CD" in the name are actual install CDs.
Files that just say "updater" are all the updates for that particular major version of Toast.
Files that just say "app" or "installer" are just the Application installer.

So the only full Install CD of Toast with Jam would be the 5.2.1 CD.
But that requires 9.1. So I've also included a pre-built 5.2.1 folder.
Copy this folder to 8.6 and install Carbon Lib 1.6 and you can run Toast 5.2.1.

So the questions are:
What OS are you running?
What platform?
What version of Toast do you want to run?

If you are running 9.1 or above simply download the 5.2.1 Install CD and the 5.2 updaters and you're done.

3371-Alpha's picture
by 3371-Alpha - 2016, April 19 - 3:11am

Could someone please add a download list with a description of each file? This is just a horrible mess!

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2016, March 25 - 11:43pm

There is also a serial number in the image of the back of the Toast box.
I believe that may be the correct number for 5.2.1.

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2016, March 25 - 10:42pm

Classic support was discontinued with Leopard.
The last OS with Classic support was Tiger.

One way is to use an OS 9 Machine, start from the beginning and use the serializer.
Then do the upgrades until you get to 5.2.3.
Once you get that far you can just bring the whole folder to any PPC OSX.

Have you tried just downloading the next to last file?
The 5.2.1/5.2.3 Application folder?
Either that or the fourth file from the bottom. The CD image of 5.2.1.

Most of the files are meant for people installing on an OS9 machine - not an OSX machine.
Since you are already on OSX all you should need is the 5.2.1 CD plus the 5.2.3 update and a serial number.

mraroid's picture
by mraroid - 2016, March 25 - 5:33pm

I am running 10.5.8 on a powerbook G4. I receive an error message on all down loads but for one. The error message I receive is: "Can't open XXXX because classic environment is no longer supported". I was able to down load and install (but with click through error messages) 5.2.1 CD. But it asked for a serial number. None posted would work.

Any advice? Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

PBG4 User's picture
by PBG4 User - 2015, March 2 - 4:44pm
5

The 5.2.x version works on Leopard (10.5.8 - PPC), too.

rich_powermac66dos's picture
by rich_powermac66dos - 2014, November 16 - 1:11am

works great thank you for solving my problem

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2014, November 3 - 10:02pm

A lot depends on what OS you are running and if you are using a real machine or an emulator.
5.0 requires MacOS 8.6
5.1 requires MacOS 9.1 - 10.2
5.2 requires MacOS 9.1 - 10.4.11

An actual install of 5.2 from CD requires OS 9.1 or later.
However if you have a working 5.2.3 folder you can use it in MacOS 8.6 by installing Carbon Lib.
5.2.3 is also compatible with OSX through at least Tiger (10.4.x).

What updater you need depends on what version you are currently at and where are you trying to get to. As you can see there are about 10 different versions of Toast 5 (5.0 - 5.2.3) and three major releases (5.0, 5.1 and 5.2). In addition some versions were available on CD while others were only upgrades (for example 5.1 requires a valid installation of 5). I believe that Jam was originally an add on and not part of any install (hence the separate Jam installer). The downloads are roughly in chronological order and I had hoped the file names would be self-explanatory.

The first file is Toast 5.0 with the updates needed to get you to 5.2.3.
Downloads that have "CD" in the name are actual install CDs.
Files that just say "updater" are all the updates for that particular major version of Toast.
Files that just say "app" or "installer" are just the Application installer.

So the only full Install CD of Toast with Jam would be the 5.2.1 CD.
But that requires 9.1. So I've also included a pre-built 5.2.1 folder.
Copy this folder to 8.6 and install Carbon Lib 1.6 and you can run Toast 5.2.1.

So the questions are:
What OS are you running?
What platform?
What version of Toast do you want to run?

If you are running 9.1 or above simply download the 5.2.1 Install CD and the 5.2 updaters and you're done.

Doodle D Day's picture
by Doodle D Day - 2014, November 3 - 5:08pm

I don't understand what all the different sit files are. Need an itemized explanation of what each one is please.

For instance, what does Toast_501_523_Install.sit mean? Does the sit contain version 5.0.1 or 5.2.3 or does it update 5.0.1 to 5.2.3 or what? Some filenames say like "5.2_Updaters" but what exactly is it updating (from what and to what version)? And why is there a "5.1_Updaters" AND a "5.2_Updaters", as well as a "5.1_Install" and "5.2_Install"?? Then there are some that say "App" as in "521_523_App" at 71megs and "523_App.img" at 5megs what?? huh??

Is there a FULL install with all the extras, including Jam? There should be just ONE full CD install like that, with Jam, and then any required updaters. Then maybe another alternate FULL install of an earlier version that is required for earlier Systems if necessary.

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2014, October 5 - 9:33am

If you notice with the 5.2.1 install the Toast extensions no longer are put in the Extensions folder. They are kept in the main Toast folder. And unless you are using non-Apple external burner none of them are really needed.

supernova777's picture
by supernova777 - 2014, October 4 - 8:27pm

is bertyboy around.. i had a question re; the apple cd extension.. and updating past 5.12 version .. what are the "symptoms" of this conflict u spoke of? can it create problems writing to drives? will it make toast tell you that your dvd drive is "unsupported" when trying to write to discs? initalize discs with drive setup?

supernova777's picture
by supernova777 - 2014, October 4 - 8:20pm

ouch no pdf? theres a pdf of 4, so i assumed 5 would be available as pdf aswell.

and re: updates
the info i found on the roxio toast history stated that their updates are not cumulutive and that they must be patched in sequential order ie: u cannot skip the 5.2.1 update and just install 5.2.3 update becuase the 5.2.3 update does not contain all of the contents of the 5.2.1 update. roxios own site stated that u can skip and install the last one, but that u would not be getting the benefit of the lower 5.2.1 update if u were to do so.

mrdav's picture
by mrdav - 2014, October 4 - 8:58am

I suspect a lot of us have the User Guide. However, it is 237 pages long. Maybe someone will scan it one day when they want to zone out.

supernova777's picture
by supernova777 - 2014, October 4 - 8:58am

does anyone have the manual? i read its 273 pages, id really like to get a copy to read right about now we are trying to figure out a way to accomplish DVD burns higher then 4.7gb on mac os 9.

re: update overkill that may be so but at least its alot easier to download 1 file and have all the updates, even if u dont have to actually run each one.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2014, October 4 - 6:38am

Toast Titanium 5.0.1 Installer
Toast Titanium 5.0.2 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1.1 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1.2 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1.3 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1.4 Update
Toast Titanium 5.2.1 Update
Toast Titanium 5.2.3 Update

And this is update overkill.

There are only 3 updaters required to upgrade from version 5.0 in order to get you to ver. 5.2.3

That is:
"Toast Titanium 5.1.1 Update" to update from 5.0.x to get you to ver. 5.1.1
"Toast Titanium 5.2.1 Update" to update from 5.1.x to get you to ver. 5.2.1
"Toast Titanium 5.2.3 Update" to update from 5.2.1 to get you to ver. 5.2.3

All others are incremental. That is you can use them, but they are unnecessary to use, given the 3 above.

supernova777's picture
by supernova777 - 2014, October 4 - 5:48am

I've created a disk image containing the following:

Toast Titanium 5.0.1 Installer
Toast Titanium 5.0.2 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1.1 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1.2 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1.3 Update
Toast Titanium 5.1.4 Update
Toast Titanium 5.2.1 Update
Toast Titanium 5.2.3 Update

http://www.mediafire.com/download/l87t5f3t5pjfv5x/toast_5_+_all_updates....
155mb
this file is uncompressed and requires no unstuffing... simply use stuffit expander to decode from macbinary and click to mount via disk copy. the updater for 5.1 will not allow you to install without mac os 9.1 or higher

i found the 5.21 update on the japanese roxio site!

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2014, October 4 - 5:16am

That would be good.

mrdav's picture
by mrdav - 2014, October 4 - 2:21am

@sfp1954: If you can't find the 5.2.3 updater, then I can provide it.

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2014, October 4 - 2:14am

We have 5.0.2 for Sheepshaver and PowerMacs running MacOS 9.0-9.1.
And we have 5.2.1/5.2.3 for G3s/G4s running MacOS 9.2.2/OSX.

Do we really need anything else?
I'll look around and see if I have a 5.2.3 updater...

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2014, October 4 - 2:06am

So for example I don't think you could ever get from 5.0.2 to 5.2.3 via updates.

You can.
To update from version 5.0.x Titanium to version 5.2.3 Titanium, the required updaters are update 5.1.1, update 5.2.1, and update 5.2.3 - i.e; All of those three updaters are required and applied in succession.

sfp1954's picture
by sfp1954 - 2014, October 4 - 1:34am

The only true installer here is the 5.2.1 install CD. Since it contains the full install of 5.2.1 I don't see the point of having the 5.2.1 update. All the other .sit files are just application folders.

The only thing the 5.2.3 update does is replace the 5.2.1 application with the 5.2.3 application (I usually rename the apps so I can keep the old version). The 5.2.3 Application is in the third download. In general all a Toast update does is replace the application file within a specific version. So for example I don't think you could ever get from 5.0.2 to 5.2.3 via updates. You could download Toast extensions so that you could use new writers that might have hit the market but if you wanted features that had been added with a new version your only choice was to buy the newer version.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2014, October 4 - 1:30am

does anyone have the 5.2.1 update? i need this one in particular.

Added link for it to page description above, but its here too; Toast_Ti_521_Updater.sit

You're right about the page. The description area needs a lot of work. I may have a go at it shortly, if I don't get beaten to it...

supernova777's picture
by supernova777 - 2014, October 4 - 12:40am

ok guys this is a mess.. re: the installers, there is a 5.2 version, a 5.02 version, and a 5.23 version, none of these are labelled accurately. this download is too important to not be 100% solid.. we need all the updates posted here PROPERLY packaged as one download.. and we need the version of the installers to be labelled correctly. this whole download needs to be repackaged, renamed + reuploaded in a more organized fashion.
resulting in:

toastTitanium_v5.02_Installer.sit
toastTitanium_v5.2_Installer.sit
toastTitanium_v5.23_installer.sit
toastTitanium_v5_ALLUPDATES.sit
toastTitanium_v5.0_originalCD.sit

can we not clean this up to be something similar to what ive outlined here?

as far as updates go there are many seperate updater files, some of the ones i have personally seen include:
Toast Titanium 5.0.1 Update.sit
Toast Titanium 5.0.2 Update.sit
Toast Titanium 5.1 Updater.sit
Toast Titanium 5.1.1 Updater.sit
Toast Titanium 5.1.2 Updater.sit
Toast Titanium 5.1.3 Updater.sit
Toast Titanium 5.1.4 Updater.sit
Toast Titanium 5.2.1 Updater.sit
Toast Titanium 5.2.3 Updater.sit
this list is not 100% there could be a missing updater there somewhere but i have never seen 1 for 5.2.2 or 5.1.5 or 5.0.3

does anyone have the 5.2.1 update? i need this one in particular.
all i can find is the 5.2.1 -> 5.2.3
PLEASE NOTE AND READ CAREFULLY THE FOLLOWING::
the roxio site explicitly says the updates *ARE NOT CUMULITIVE*
that means they must be applied *IN ORDER* *SEQUENTIALLY* *ONE AFTER THE OTHER*
you cannot just get the latest update 5.2.3 and install that
because the 5.2.3 update does not contain the code from the lower updates
the same is to be assumed for the rest of their updates..
they are sequential.. not cumulutive..
these are not mac os "Combo" updaters.

the 5.2.1 update is missing - we need to find it
it should be called "Toast Titanium 5.2.1 updater"

mrdav's picture
by mrdav - 2013, January 23 - 9:17am

Yes

Kirtide's picture
by Kirtide - 2013, January 23 - 7:20am

Does this program do PC/Mac Hybrid CD's?

bertyboy's picture
by bertyboy - 2010, December 28 - 7:05am

External drives tend to be more compatible, but it depends on what you want to use it for, and under what OS. I doubt HP actually make the drives, it'll be some cheap brand inside the casing.

Will it work ? Well, if you told us what you want to achieve and under which OS, we could answer. Did you search for the drive on the xlr8yourmac database ? Or put it into google with "Mac", or seen if HP provides any Mac support for it ?
You're going to have almost guaranteed success with optical drives brnaded by those that have a history of stock drives for Macs, ie. Pioneer and Sony. xlr8yourmac had a more complete list. It's no coincidence that my 7 assorted DVD-RW drives across 5 Macs are 5 Pioneers and 2 Sony. They just work.

chillinfart's picture
by chillinfart - 2010, December 27 - 9:30pm
4

mmm... Any way to obtain the 5.21 or 5.23 patch (only the patch)? Im afraid to mess my current installation with the full cd from here.

And finally, works with this burner?
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=60458&lc=es&dlc=es&cc...

iMachinchilla's picture
by iMachinchilla - 2010, August 23 - 5:06pm

Does it work in Rosetta/ Mac OS X 10.5< ?

xy's picture
by xy - 2010, May 2 - 12:33pm

That xlr8yourmac site is great. Thanks a lot. Thanks also for the corrections.

bertyboy's picture
by bertyboy - 2010, April 30 - 6:08pm

xy, just a slight correction.

Toast 5.0.2 will work with up to OS9.2.2 with all the extensions enabled. It will also allow use of the Disc Burner in the finder and the burner in iTunes.

It's when you go above c5.0.2, up to v5.1.3 that you are required to disable the extensions, also Disc Burner.

And the good news with Toast v5 is that almost any CD / DVD burner will work. Can't guarantee it'll be bootable, but it may be. Last year I took the dual layer DVD+/-RW Optiarc 7170A out of my Mac Pro - replaced one of them with a new Pioneer. Put the Optiarc (Sony / NEC) into my MDD G4, and tested it in all the OSX flavours I had installed, and in OS9.2.2 also. Worked a treat in all OS's. Submitted my report to xlr8yourmac Note, didn't try dual-layer disc burning in any OS, the discs are just too expensive.

This may be the best place to start loking for a compatible fdrive. Like xy hinted at, there are different levels of compatabolity, booting may be important, burning within the Apple included apps may be important (these may be referred to as the iApps, ie. iTunes, iDVD, iMovie), or just compatibility with Toast may be required. The more flexible you are, the more devices you will be able to use.

Just found my xlr8yourmac report, says I didn't test it in OS9. Maybe I didn't when I sent the report in, but I have since and it worked a treat in Toast.

Start your xlr8yourmac search here:
http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso

SwedeBear's picture
by SwedeBear - 2010, April 30 - 1:02pm

@SHiNShU: You could have a go with Intech's CD/DVD SpeedTools. Runs from OS 7 upto 9.2.2 and the rest of the reading is here: http://www.speedtools.com/CDInfo.html

xy's picture
by xy - 2010, April 30 - 11:29am

Toast 5.02 should work on Mac OS 9.0. However, you have to disable the USB FireWire Support and USB Authoring Support extensions in the Extension Folder of the System Folder. These extensions are in conflict and substituted by the Toast Extension. In version 5.02 the Toast extension also supports the Apple Disk Burner. The Apple Disk Burner, however, is no good; it cannot burn bootable CDs. If Toast does not work for, try free iTunes. I never checked that out, but heard that you can burn CDs with that. On the hardware side, be careful to find a CD burner that is compatible with your iMac. You probably need a very old CD burner which is not faster than 4x, and has no DVD and FireWire support. They are very cheap on the second hand market - but also very very slow.

SHiNShU's picture
by SHiNShU - 2010, April 29 - 2:27am

i presume this is a workaround for not havin os 9.1 which has extensions to add cd burnin, and also now .toast files are no longer big clutter with no purpose but to waste disk space. however i dont think computers that came with a slot-loadin drive (i.e. the '01 imac) will support this software, and bein that ive read most 3rd party drives dont work with 9.x(maybe thats only hard drives though), that only leaves the costlier apple burners which i aint sure will work in a pre-os x environment. if i can find a usb cd/dvd burner for a cheap price that will be compatible and can get it up and runnin in 9.0, ill be doin great.

mindhunter63's picture
by mindhunter63 - 2010, April 12 - 5:06pm
5

works great on my clamshell SE with dvd burner via firewire.

Excalibur's picture
by Excalibur - 2010, April 4 - 11:42pm

I looked at the link you posted:
http://www.rawsound.com/archive/
There is a TON of great stuff there, some of which I've been looking for, for years, (such as CopyAgent). Unfortunately, I get an error after clicking on any file to download.

Bolkonskij's picture
by Bolkonskij - 2010, March 2 - 5:18pm

You mean 10.6 Snow Leopard? Probably not. I had bought Toast 6 sometime before the First World War and used it up to the day Snow Leo came. From then on it would just quit upon start without any error given. If you're looking for a small burn program take a look at Burn (http://burn-osx.sourceforge.net/Pages/English/home.html). It's freeware & good.

The Coma-man's picture
by The Coma-man - 2010, February 11 - 10:57pm

Does this work with the new OSX version??

Mac Guy's picture
by Mac Guy - 2010, January 11 - 8:26am
5

4 523 TRY YWXX-CGP-USW-DV3-LCUO or SP-HG15N-HP693-S72OR

4 502 TRY C38V-KD0-03H-PMM-U9CX or NZNW-6QH-Z1G-D7T-5RJT