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QuarkXPress 3.32 Smart disk/CD installation

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#1
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Installer_Disk.img_.sit (232.29 KB)
For System 6.x - Mac OS 9
#2
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
QuarkXPress3.32.img_.sit (54.92 MB)
For System 6.x - Mac OS 9
#3
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Installer_Disk.image_.hqx (314.61 KB)
For System 6.x - Mac OS 9
#4
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
User_Registration_Disk.im_.hqx (1.17 MB)
For System 6.x - Mac OS 9
Emulation
This app works with: SheepShaver, Basilisk II, Mini vMac

QuarkXPress 3.32 PPC and 68k CD and Smart Installation Floppy.

Download both files, unstuff them and mount both the CD image and the floppy image using Disk Copy. Run the Installer from the floppy. Choose either PPC or 68k at the bottom right. Install to your choice of location. Run the QuarkXPress 3.32r5 updater included in other posts.

Downloads 1 and 2 came from a disk image I acquired of the actual QuarkXPress media.
Downloads 3 and 4 are actual virginized install disk and user registration floppy respectively. The disk images are locked straight from MacRUS so you may have to convert the disks to read/write images.

They do work and I have tested them, but with all the disk swaps that the installer assumes, it is VERY difficult to get this installer to work in emulation.

I had to use Mini vMac since it deals with disk swapping better and creative use of Disk Copy to get the first install performed where you fill out the registration info. Once you get it installed once, it builds the registration info into the Installer disk and you can install it much like downloads 1 and 2 above after the difficult first install. I will thank MacRUS for the providing the virginized floppies. They work with the CD disk image in download 2 just fine.

In fact, I would love it if someone on here would like to combine my upload with http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/quark-xpress-332r2-plus-xtensions

Compatibility
Architecture: 68k PPC

System 6.0.5 - Mac OS 9.2.2, runs in Classic after installed

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MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2015, September 27 - 4:43am

  I might dust off my old 9.2.2 G4 "sunflower" iMac specifically to try this...

Good luck with installing it, tmm. Remember tho' it will want to swap actual floppies & mounted images will fail if using a real Mac...

I've made a little progress. I installed it to Basilisk II, running as a Quadra 800, Mac OS 7.6.1. This was the Windows "Build 142" version of B2 - as build 142 has excellent floppy disk support, so it was an easy install from floppy and CD (I used a Teac USB floppy drive for this).

I chose to install the PPC version, ignoring the installer's warnings and installed it to a drive I share with SheepShaver.

Booting into SheepShaver and launching QXP it starts up and runs perfectly, native PPC. Excellent. - My SheepShaver is using on a Old World ROM and is emulating a PPC 9500/200, also running Mac OS 7.6.1

I archived my installed QXP files and copied them to my beige G3 and QXP fails to run, same as when I'd installed it to the G3 anyway.

The exact error message it throws up is: "This version of QuarkXPress can't be run on this System [4]" which to me is nuts, because the pre-installed PPC version from the other page here, runs just fine.

Well at least the version on this page runs OK on my 68k hardware, Basilisk II and SheepShaver. So its not a total loss.

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2015, September 27 - 1:40am

@MTT, might wanna look into this

0 > dev / ls
ff880d90: /cpus
ff881068: /PowerPC,750@0
ff881488: /l2-cache
ff882148: /chosen
ff882388: /memory@0
ff882650: /openprom
ff882828: /client-services

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2015, September 27 - 1:32am

I think OpenFirmware was the best and only real way to fake out the system... Need to look into how XPostFacto (and it's cousin) works. I know it fakes out speed and RAM, with any luck it could also do CPU type?

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2015, September 27 - 1:30am

I might dust off my old 9.2.2 G4 "sunflower" iMac specifically to try this...

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2015, September 27 - 1:19am

@tmm: Nah. I did try altering the gestalt info tho'. Tried both "Mac Identifier" and "Wish I were..." and made the G3 appear to be various models from a 6100 to 8100 PPC Macs.

The Apple System Profiler saw the G3 as being those models with their corresponding ID's changed but the CPU info remained as PowerPC G3 and I think that this is what the Quark installer looks at, as it still didn't recognize the altered Mac as being a PPC Mac, only as some "unknown" Mac with a 68020 CPU.

I also took the installer apart with ResEdit and can see that for PPC, it has info on 601 to 604 CPU's only.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has tried to install this to a PPC G3 or G4 Mac and got it to install OK ~ or not.

Installing to actual 68K hardware appears to be fine. Which is OK, but it would be good to find out if it'll install to a PPC Mac OK, too. If only I'd kept my 7300...

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2015, September 26 - 7:38am

Fake out the system with OpenFirmware Smile same way that XPostFacto does ?!!

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2015, September 26 - 6:36am

My attempts at using the "virginized" floppy's to install a PPC QXP onto my G3 Mac have all ended in failure.

But the opposite occurs when installing to 68K hardware. I have one working 68K Mac left, a Centris 660av. 22 years old and still running like it was meant to. Using the virgin install floppies, the 68K version of QXP installs to this Mac without issue and runs flawlessly. Great.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2015, September 24 - 10:51pm

@tmm: There is no FAT install option with this. The installer engine itself is 68k coded so it runs under emulation on PPC. Because the G3 CPU is way too modern for it, it doesn't see the G3 Mac as being a PPC and in fact thinks that its some unknown Mac with a 68020 CPU.

It does this for both my beige and iMac G3 Macs, as mentioned previously.

I'd have to find an earlier PPC Mac model to test it further. I think SheepShaver is out too, because of the installer's insistence on swapping floppy disks and SheepShaver's lack of floppy support.

The pre-installed PPC version from the other page works great on the beige (and SheepShaver), so I know its the Quark "virgin" installer that's the real issue.

One thing I do know, is that I don't like Quark installers Sick Tired Sick Tired

blackholemac's picture
by blackholemac - 2015, September 24 - 10:08pm

This stupid proprietary installer of Quark's does make it complicated. Shy of making actual floppies via Disk Copy 4.2, it is hard to get the virginized one to work in emulation.

Here's how I did it with images only.

1. Convert a copy of the Installer Disk and Registration Disk to Read/Write. Copy them to whatever system instance you use.
2. Spin up an instance of Mini vMac as a Mac II. Install System 7.5.5. For speed, set it to "All Out". Mount the Disk Copy image and Mount the CD using Disk Copy 6.3.3. Run the Installer from the Floppy. You will get the Registration info...go through it and answer it and make sure to choose Save. You'll get to the point of simulating disk swaps. Make sure you have a copy of the Installer somewhere else on your OS X machine. In Mini vMac, I keep having it rotate between opening the disk image using Mini vMac's open and having to have it remount the system software volume.
3. Finally when all the swaps are done, it will offer to install Quark and will write the registration of your choosing to the installer that was read/write. Make sure to keep that read/write image so you don't go through disk swap hell again.
4. In the future using any emu, you can mount the floppy, mount the CD and install this using the installer that has registration data written.
It is outright ugly, but it works. An alternative would be to use Disk Copy 4.2 to make actual registration and installer floppies. Burn a CD of the CD .img. Install it like you would have back in the day on your Beige G3. Once done, make an image of your resulting floppy and use that for emulators. This one is not for the faint at heart, but I can get it done and could show via a screen capture video if I had to. I have it installed now.

As for quark 3.32 being a FAT binary, it never was...that was always annoying back in the day. Version 4 offered FAT, but not 3.32. Even the updates were hardware specific on 3.32.

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2015, September 24 - 6:45am

@MTT, I thought there was a FAT option in the custom install? I could be well and truly wrong here (or even an option to install 68k & FAT)???

Man, that was like 1993 or something...

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2015, September 23 - 5:19am

  Downloads 3 and 4 are actual virginized install disk and user registration floppy respectively.

I'm having a problem with this "virginized" install. I've had a few attempts at getting it to install onto my beige G3, where it refuses to see the beige as being a PPC Mac and insists on installing as a 68k app only. It won't run as the 68k app either and just exits with an incompatible machine error and quits.

Tried installing it several ways, custom & typical. I even resorted to gestalt changing making the beige Mac look like it was an earlier PPC model, but still no go. I don't have an older-than-this PPC Mac to test further.

On the beige G3 I use the pre-installed PPC copy of QXP 3.3x located here. This PPC version is one I can use without any grief, so it looks like I'll be sticking with that one for now.

I also have an old iMac G3 and USB floppy drive and tried installing to that. It couldn't see the iMac as being a PPC Mac either and installed the 68k version. It did however run on this Mac tho' albeit as a 68k app only.

I guess YMMV.

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2015, January 10 - 5:23am
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For sale again... QuarkXpress-3-32-for-Mac-Power-Macintosh <-- removed expired link

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2014, December 18 - 5:33am

   I'll note I could have uploaded the CD as a Toast file, but the problem with that is that Toast is not the world's easiest to get mounted in OS 9 without installing Toast itself.

The super quick & lightweight Virtual CD/DVD Utility here, is often recommended instead of Toast for mounting CD/DVD images on Mac OS's 7 - 9.

No matter. Thanks for re-upping as StuffIt ".sit" archives.

blackholemac's picture
by blackholemac - 2014, December 18 - 4:38am

I'll note I could have uploaded the CD as a Toast file, but the problem with that is that Toast is not the world's easiest to get mounted in OS 9 without installing Toast itself. OS 9 usually comes with Disk Copy already on there...mounting both the CD and the floppy at the same time, running the floppy installer will have this install flawlessly save for the user I bought it off of's registration branded on there.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2014, December 17 - 9:39pm

   No virginizers seem to work on the installer disk, but some work on the main application to change registration info.

And of those, all we've tried to date have issues. The most promising "Quark Renamer for 4.0" works for me only briefly, one or two times, then causes QXP to fail (requiring full re-installation)... so YMMV.

@blackholemac: The main (60.8 MB) image you've uploaded is damaged and unrecoverable. Classic Macintosh image files must be either compressed with an archiver that will preserve the Macintosh Resource Fork of the image file, otherwise it will not arrive at a destination intact. Usually the archiver for achieving this successfully is StuffIt (DropStuff, Deluxe or Standard).

If the image is of a CD, you can create a .iso or .toast or .cdr image of the CD, then use StuffIt or ZIP compression before uploading.

mrdav's picture
by mrdav - 2014, December 17 - 10:59am

Please always upload img images in a protective StuffIt wrapper otherwise the image may get corrupted.

Kitchen2010's picture
by Kitchen2010 - 2014, December 17 - 10:08am

I cannot mount the CD image of the application, only the floppy image is mounting.

MD5 (Quark XPress_3.32.img) = de6eb6557a13e0d43be4600f40ebfaeb

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2014, December 17 - 5:37am

I think we've been through this already. No virginizers seem to work on the installer disk, but some work on the main application to change registration info. Not quite the same, but similar?!

Some "virginizers" to try here - http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/xpress-re-serialize-v3-4