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MiniVMac_II for Android , OSX, Windows

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#1
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
MiniVMac_II.zip (3.97 MB)
For System 6.x - System 7.0 - 7.6
#2
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
MinivMac_II_358.app_.zip (86.14 KB)
For System 6.x - System 7.0 - 7.6
#3
[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
MiniVMac_II.zip (43.84 MB)
For System 6.x - System 7.0 - 7.6
Emulation
Guides on emulating older applications

First DL:

This is an old build that used to be available via the Android app store.
As it is gone for reasons I can´t tell, I think its deserves a place here.
The DL comes ready to use. Expand and move to a folder /mnt/sdcard0/minivmac on your device.
To install, navigate to the "name.osher.gil.minivmac.ii" folder and into "rev". Install 40.apk
You may need to check the box "install from any location" in your system settings.

Second DL:

OSX 32bit app only, please use first/third DL for ROM and boot disk.
The app opens a 1024x700 screen, 256 colours. RAM is 8MB.

Third DL:

Windows 32bit app, versions with 256/thousands/millions of colours.
The apps open a 1300x700 screen. ROM and boot disk included.
These builds should work with Windows 7 or higher.

Development and maintenance

All above apps are based on the meanwhile outdated MiniVMac 3.3/3.5 by Paul C. Pratt.
If you find MiniVMac useful, please do consider a donation to the developer.
https://www.gryphel.com/c/minivmac/index.html
You may also download the up to date apps there.
If you should want to tinker with the old version yourself to build own flavours, please look here:
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-system-608-minivmac-mac-plus #3

Compatibility
Architecture: x86 (Intel:Mac) x86 (Windows)

Android 2.3 or higher and a place called sdcard0 on the given device.
Path is hard coded.

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scott Praed's picture
by scott Praed - 2018, December 5 - 2:30am

On Mini vmac web page is other port from other people.

I found an android port on this page.
http://miniv.gil.ninja/

24bit's picture
by 24bit - 2018, December 4 - 11:18pm

Absolutely Mike. Sponsored computing from all big players.
Maybe time to look at Linux distros again. I just like the macOS Hackintosh still too much to change horses. (My backup lappy is running W10 already.)
Maybe some Linux genius could donate a few MiniVMac II builds with various color or screen size settings. Too bad its way above my head to build for Android myself.
The source is here: https://github.com/dolfin/minivmac4android
Lets hope a kind soul drops by to pick up sticks…

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2018, December 4 - 9:00pm

Gives me the sh*ts all this locked down... Sick Angry Sick Angry Sick Angry Sick Tired Tired Tired Tired !!!!

I haven't tried installing such apps like this old MvM II on my phone. Mainly as its on my droid 5 tablet and I prefer the desktop space it offers. Just wish this MvMII could have a higher screen rez and it would be near perfect. Guess I won't be upgrading my tablet anytime soon, either Tongue

24bit's picture
by 24bit - 2018, December 4 - 3:27pm

Mike, me too I´m very fond of Huawei devices, we have two Y300, two MediaPad 10 Link still alive and working great. The Nova 3i is a great phone too, as far as the droid side is concerned, outstanding cameras and huge storage, GPS in the house immediately, I was really temped to keep my Friday deal.
What is really disturbing to me is the rights management in 8.1 locking me out from almost anything.
Needless to say that a SD can not be used as real storage expansion, only usable for picts and crap. Sad

Could be I was doing something wrong and there is a simple solution I´m not aware of.
I guess it´s possible to hack the phone to get root access and such, but I don´t need it that urgent.
The phone is still here, ready for return…
I seem to recall a similar issue with locked volumes in a thread with m68k, did he hit the same ceiling?

No idea if the missing write access is a new 8.1 security feature, but presumably Huawei would not worsen their devices purposely?

Edit:
I did read that from Android 7 up, apps may only write to volumes that they created themselves.
(arguable but understandable)
If a new volume for BII can be created somewhere on the device, it should be writable.
The Mac System and files could be copied over from a write only volume in an instant.
For BII on the Nova 3i that does not seem possible, as the new volume button in setup does nothing, neither when pointing to internal storage, nor SD via the GUI.
So its farewell Nova 3i for me. Smile

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2018, December 4 - 4:34am

I'd be very interested in your findings if you do purchase the new Mini vMac for 'droid, 24bit.

Pity about no writing to a SD ! Is that 'droid 8 in general or a Huawei thing? I have a Huawei phone with 'droid 7 and won't update if that's the case.

24bit's picture
by 24bit - 2018, December 2 - 10:43pm

I had a Android 8 phone here from the Friday deals.
The MiniVMac version hosted here does not work, probably due to the hard coded volumes path.
I might pay for the new release and try it with Android 6 or 7 in VirtualBox.

The latest BII build from playstore did not work either, as I could not gain write access to internal storage or SD card. Its possible to copy files to a FAT32 SD card beforehand to get things rolling, but it was not possible to edit the prefs file menu.
Even worse, every Mac app wanting to store e.g. Preferences crashes, as write access to a SD (!) is prohibited.
Great proceedings, locking out users from their phone storage.
The Huawei phone looked like a bargain for € 239: https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p_smart+_(nova_3i)-pictures-9272.php
But without getting root access its not what I want.
Guess I stick with my Android 4.X.X devices as long as they are alive.

As for the sreen resolutions, I´m rather sure they are selected at compile time.
A resolution/clour switching on the fly will need another approach than the one Paul is maintaining,
I´m afraid.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2018, February 3 - 11:58pm

Version 2.4.1 Mini vMac II for Android port by Gill Osher is available from Google Play for about $2

I wonder if the screen resolution choices (or lack of them) have been fixed/updated?

Anyway. It's good to see that this port is still alive somewhat (last updated September 28, 2017).

[Edit]: I think I see why the above has vanished. The project for the Android port is now named "Mini V II" (it has a nice new logo pic, too).

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2017, May 21 - 12:01am

Probably time and not money (given the licensing of the project). Working at a "real" job and or life commitments could interfere with anyone's hobby project. Assuming here the Mac II port is at a complete stand still, perhaps someone else will revive it.

I really do feel for Paul C. Pratt, he probably gets more fielded questions about the Android port than he should, yet he diligently responds to every 'droid request (with it's not mine sorry, replies). It shows there's a demand for this port tho'.

24bit's picture
by 24bit - 2017, May 20 - 1:11pm

You are right as usual, Mike.
The main development of MiniVMac has lots of screen sizes and features to select, so it should be doable for a guy with programming skills to build some apps with different screen sizes or color depth.
Seems the source code for the Android apps was made available to the public. The zip file with the code has a folder minivmac/src/macii included.
Gil Osher´s page for the free MiniVMac build may be a starting point to ask for news.
https://dolfin.github.io/minivmac4android/
Last entry is three years old Sad https://github.com/dolfin/minivmac4android/tree/macii
Would be great to see an updated release, no idea what the obstacles are - probably time or money?

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2017, May 19 - 11:50pm

This build's display is 640 x 480 and not the 800 x 600 I had assumed. If you go to Settings and uncheck "Scale - Fit target screen to host screen", you'll see the actual screen size in your display.

If only there was a choice of screen size for this 'droid build, as I really like it's potential as a classic Mac emulator on Android devices.

The onscreen keyboard I think is one of it's strong features with sticky Command key combinations e.g.; Shift + Command + 3 for a screenshot, or (Anglo keyboard), Command + Option + s for a "ß" - etc Smile

24bit's picture
by 24bit - 2017, May 16 - 2:46pm

Argh, SheepShaver is not going to happen for Android I´m afraid.
The last SS running flawlessly for me was with Suse 10.1 or the old Mandriva 2004 years ago.
http://www.linuxforums.org/articles/review-of-suse-10-1_114.html
Mandriva even had SheepShaver and BII in its repository, saving me from the GNU/Linux dependency hell. Gone like the wind.
Today one may try one´s luck with Cat_7´s builds: http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=6553 or try to compile the beast on ones own. (Way above my head.)
The old emulators get thrown sticks between their legs the more an OS becomes streamlined and more secured.
E.g. SS on Sierra can not work in 64bit, can not start from app or user folder (at first), can not read from optical media. Trouble ahead. Best to keep a working instance of these great emulators on an OS they feel at home with. OSX 10.6.8 may come to mind here. The host OS supporting HFS (sort of) is a great advantage. Windows is an option too, the latest SS build got a patch enabling optical drives again.

Instead of SheepShaver, we may rather see a QEMU offspring on Android methinks.
The ARM v8 multicore SoC look capable enough and once some speed issues will have been ironed out on the emulator´s side plus someone caring to adopt the OSX builds for droids...

Oh well, enough off-topic on a rainy day. Smile

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2017, May 15 - 11:44pm

mounts the external SD card as /sdcard0, not that I would want to complain about that.

No, I don't think I would moan about that, either Smile

Next you'll be be finding a SheepShaver 'droid port Wink

I now have this Mini vMac II running 6.0.8 and 7.1.1 - likely I won't run a later OS because of the 8MB RAM ceiling. 7.1.1 is nice on it, tho' I'd still prefer a higher display rez.

24bit's picture
by 24bit - 2017, May 15 - 12:55pm

Thanks Mike, the build has its limitations and its highlights - more than four mounted volumes for example.
The 800/600 screen is no issue with my 1024/600 seven inch IPS display. Smile
The hard coded path /sdcard0 is a pity with old devices or very limited storage.
The Lenovo Tab 2 7-30 which I got "like new" from flea bay mounts the external SD card as /sdcard0, not that I would want to complain about that.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2017, May 15 - 2:19am

Hi 24bit. This build runs OK on my Galaxy Tab A, running Android 5.0.2

It has a onscreen keyboard that I could only hope to see on Android Basilisk II. Makes me wonder why BII doesn't have this for the 'droid build.

Downside for me is the fixed 800x600? screen size (which stretches to fit). I'd prefer a 1024x768 display which is my Tab A's native resolution. Also there doesn't appear to be a way of loading disk images directly from the SD card, drive files need to exist in the minivmac folder on disk 0

But all in all its pretty nice to have Mini vMac II running on 'droid. Thanks for adding it here.

24bit's picture
by 24bit - 2017, May 12 - 1:37pm

As this was once sold for a small fee, the app may work or not on an unknown device.
It did work on a "new" Lenovo Kitkat tablet for me. (Dropped my old one and broke the screen.)
I´ll add some Android screenshots if need should be.

If you feel like it, please let us know how you fare with this build.
Does it still work with recent droids?