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Adobe FrameMaker 7.0

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Download Framemaker_7.0.sit (185.07 MB)
For Mac OS 9
Emulation
This app works with: SheepShaver,

[Alternative Download] http://www.mediafire.com/?mowgmfn0i33nm9l

Note: This .sit file should (in theory) be able to be installed and licensed, but was unable to be tested, as a fully licensed copy of FrameMaker 7.x was already installed. Please advise if you are unable to license it, as there is another way to install without using the installer package.

XML Cookbook
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/framemaker_xml_cookbook.pdf

Solutions Guide
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/framemaker/FM7_Solutions_G...

See also: FrameMaker 3, FrameMaker 4.0.2, Adobe FrameMaker 5.0, Adobe FrameMaker 5.1, Adobe FrameMaker 5.5, Adobe FrameMaker 5.5.6, Adobe FrameMaker 6.0

Compatibility
Architecture: PPC

Requires Mac OS 9.0 to 9.2.2 (can run in Classic mode on PPC OS X).

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From the Installer's Read Me documentation:
MAC OS SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
To use FrameMaker, you need the following hardware and software:
• PowerPC® processor that supports the Energy Saver Control Panel (G3/G4 recommended)
• Mac OS 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, OSX 10.1 (Classic Mode)
• 128 MB of RAM (256 MB recommended for structured authoring)
• 180-320 MB of available hard-disk space (320 MB recommended).
• 800 x 600 VGA monitor (1024 x 768 recommended)
• CD-ROM drive
• Macintosh-compatible printer (Adobe Postscript printer recommended)
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-- Note: The FrameMaker installer does not support installing FrameMaker under OS X Classic mode (or in Mac OS X). That info is in the FrameMaker Installer's Read Me file and refers to the Mac OS X available at the time (10.1) it may or may not be true. unixphreak reports this installs fine in Classic mode (OS X 10.4.11).

-- For Full Info on installation see "Manual" link above (its the installation "Read Me" file in full)

Running in SheepShaver: The following quote is by "Mr. Tamarin" in the emaculation forum:

I tried several times to start FrameMaker, and it would crash SheepShaver every time. I removed the FrameMaker 7 Prefs file from the Preferences folder so that I would be prompted to choose which mode to run FrameMaker in the next time I launched it. I chose Structured FrameMaker mode, and I again had my stable FrameMaker running again. So the key seems to be to run in Structured FrameMaker mode.

For steps to run in SheepShaver, and to read the thread in full, see the last few posts by "Mr. Tamarin" here. With thanks to NucAr for bringing this info to our attention.

Comments

by xy - 2014, August 30 - 12:51pm

The FM installer offers several language versions. The serial number around in the web and in serial number collections (please find out for yourself where to find these) works for the U.S. version only. To my knowledge there is no serial number around for the other languages.

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by CineNate35 - 2014, August 28 - 3:26am

Hey! I am not able to enter a serial number. It is locked in demo mode. Any suggestions?

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by themacmeister - 2013, May 27 - 2:47am
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yeah, Mediafire is getting way worse. I am personally VERY fond of 4Shared, and as a free member, I can be downloading five files concurrently at full speed. It is amazing. There is a 20sec download timer on each file, but by the time you have opened the 5th tab, the first tab is ready for downloading.

just a thought.

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by MikeTomTom - 2013, May 26 - 11:33am

Gad mediafire is shite! This file is still downloadable from there - but what an arse of a website Sad

by SwedeBear - 2012, July 26 - 5:39pm

Don´t know if you already seen this one: SHDW102-2140-0576-0810-30AG-4

by crank dat apple - 2012, July 26 - 2:14pm

Just a note: there is a FrameMaker 7 download available on the Max1zzz server (look in the Mulder folder via Uploads > Mac Classic. This is only a trial version and you cannot unlock it, although he includes a serial number for the program. Why did he include the serial number? It doesn't make much sense...

On another note: do not always trust web sites like serials.ws/mac/. Many of the serials there do not work. I downloaded an old ALAP plugin for adobe indesign called ShadowCaster 1.0.2 and it requires a serial number, but every serial listed on the internet does not work. Does anyone know what the real serial number is? (ALAP went out of business and Quark probably won't sell you the code.)

by xy - 2010, December 20 - 3:35pm

Some days ago I wrote:

"Easy install installs Adobe orated Arial PS fonts without their bitmaps!"

This is not entirely true: This only happens if you have Arial TT Fonts in your Fonts Folder of the System Folder. If you put the Arial TT Font out of the System Folder the FrameMaker installer will install the PS bitmap. You can install the Arial PS Fonts with Custom Install. They are necessary for the templates.

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 18 - 6:02am

My most profuse apologies to all concerned. After another restart, Text Encoding Converter is there and working, and also Framemaker 7.0 is working perfectly.

Once again, my apologies if I gave the impression that Framemaker was to blame -- the restart failed after the install, and a forced reset did not have the same effect as a true power cycle.

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 18 - 2:05am

@unixphreak:

I do think the not installing in Classic mode is wrong. The only way I run Framemaker 7 is using classic on Mac OS X 10.4.11 and it installed just fine from the archive above.

Thanks for that. The info for it not installing under Classic came from the Read Me in the FrameMaker Installer, it may be only relevant to the current Mac OS at the time of writing (10.1), if at all. So if it installs OK for you under classic mode on 10.4.x thats good enough for me. I've revised the info for the Compatibility section above.

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 18 - 1:03am

Thanks xy, but only 2.1.1 has the correct Text Encoding Converter -- I am fairly sure I have that version backed up Smile

by unixphreak - 2010, December 18 - 12:22am

thanks for the info, I do think the not installing in Classic mode is wrong. The only way I run Framemaker 7 is using classic on Mac OS X 10.4.11 and it installed just fine from the archive above. I just don't install the adobe online files with a custom install.

by xy - 2010, December 17 - 3:24pm

macmeister, FM did not uninstall my Text Encoding Converter, so this is not normal installing procedure. But I am glad you got it back. The most recent version of MRJ is 2.2.6. Free download here: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1184?viewlocale=en_US

Mike TomTom, thanks very much for the test! So my suspicion was correct: don't trust Adobe when being online. It's the same with icWord: on every launch it sends an Esellerate message home to check the registration.

unixphreak, Pagemaker 7.0 (have not tested 7.01) does not crash on my native Mac OS 9.2.2 when FM is installed. Pagemaker is known for not working well in the classic mode.

by unixphreak - 2010, December 17 - 12:29pm

Framemaker 7 works great in the Classic environment on Tiger 10.4.11, but Pagemaker 7-7.0.1 crashes on startup, I also added the Cookbook and the Solutions guide if anyone cares.

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 17 - 11:58am
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Thanks for the concise info MikeTomTom!

appreciated!

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 17 - 11:33am

@themacmeister:

I did a base install, with a working serial number, and it still doesn't work. I have better than the recommended specs, but it crashes on launch (-1282 or some such error number). This is a shame, because it took so much hassle to get Sad

On SheepSaver I'm thinking I may have to revise my opinion - it crashes SheepShaver when trying to launch for the first time, period. However, there will be a few workaround attempts I will try before I offer a conclusive yay or nay.

This is not the case for me on a G4 Mac. - FrameMaker Works on this Mac OS 9.2.2 box.

Before the install I unplugged the network cable to the Mac. Once installed (reboot required), launching FrameMaker for the 1st time it wants to register with Adobe and offers to connect on-line - or create a form letter (via a browser) that you can save and post off later. I chose the latter and saved the output.

I then removed everything from the newly created "Web" folder inside "HD:System Folder:Application Support:Adobe:Web"

Rebooted Mac here (my choice).

Launched FrameMaker and it complains of an "Adobe Online internal error". Meaning: This thing would like to "phone home" each *^$%#(@!! time it launches.

I reintroduced the file "AdobeWeb.dll" to the folder "HD:System Folder:Application Support:Adobe:Web". This allows FrameMaker to write the phone-home log named "adobeweblog" (zero k of data) and it is happy with this. That is; it creates this file connected to the web or not, but the file remains at zero k (no data is written to it). None of the other installed files from this folder, once removed, matter. And you no longer get the error message from Framemaker.

I replugged in the network cable after this, still zero k written to adobewelog so far...

YMMV

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 17 - 10:58am
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Text Encoding Coverter was killed by FM7 install (I don't use this computer at all). Working perfectly, to not working perfectly (and beeping!), and only one thing happened in-between.

Installing MRJ 2.1.1 (Macintosh Runtime for Java) reinstalls the correct version of Text Encoding Converter, I will give it a try.

by xy - 2010, December 17 - 10:34am

Actually, it did, on my Mac, also launch successfully before updating, but maybe you have apps or games installed that are in conflict. I have no games installed. Your situation is very weird since FrameMaker does not install very much into the system folder (most things just go into the Application Support: Adobe folder). Also, FM is known for being quite stable.

I have a suspicion that your missing TextEncodingConverter might be the problem. The Mac OS 9 installer should have installed it (if I recall it correctly).

Or try getting out the ARMLib out of the Adobe Application Support folder in the system folder; this was supposed to help with InDesign 2.0.2. Maybe it also helps with FM.

Here is a bug list (mostly for FM Win but might also apply for FM Mac):
http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html

Here is frameusers.com:
http://www.frameusers.com/
Maybe some veteran there can help you.

I did only install the FM installer. There is also a web publisher or like installer which integrates into FM which I did not install.

Did you launch offline or online? I do not trust Adobe for launching online.

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 17 - 9:33am

I was at least expecting the program to LAUNCH without updating Smile

It is on a G3 600MHz iBook, with 384MB RAM, and about 10GB free HDD. I might give it another try tonight, and see how I go -- I may also read the installation instructions this time Laughing out loud

by xy - 2010, December 17 - 9:31am

macmeister, did you install on an Intel Mac? FrameMaker 7.0 Mac PPC does not work in the Classic Environment of Intel Macs.

Or maybe something is wrong with your system: I remember you also saying that simple little HoverBar did not work properly on your system although it does work on mine Mac OS 9.2.2 (native) fine.

Did you update to 7.0p577 (update link above)?

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 17 - 7:30am
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I did a base install, with a working serial number, and it still doesn't work. I have better than the recommended specs, but it crashes on launch (-1282 or some such error number).

This is a shame, because it took so much hassle to get Sad

by xy - 2010, December 16 - 6:42pm

Here is a bug list; applies to Framemaker for Windows but might also help for Framemaker Mac:
http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html

The installer of FM 7.0 for the Mac offers installation in several languages. However, the serials which can be found on the web and in serial boxes seem to only apply to the U.S. installler option.

by xy - 2010, December 16 - 6:12pm

For FrameMaker 7.1 on Intel Macs look here:
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=619;screens...

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 16 - 12:12pm

@bertyboy mentioned:

If anyone wants to test it then add the link to the app description. It would also be handy if you could flesh out the System Requirements.

OK have added more info to the Sys Req. description and added the DL for the Stuffit 5.5 file. Looks as tho' xy had great success with his install. I didn't get quite as far due to a 'coff' lack of a 'coff' installer code 'coff' Stare Ah, one of these days... Shy

by xy - 2010, December 16 - 11:10am

Installer works perfectly. The only thing: Easy install installs Adobe orated Arial PS fonts without their bitmaps! This is typically Adobe: The installers of Pagemaker 6/7 install Times New Roman PS without bitmaps. Well, for those using Pagemaker, the installer of Framemaker installs the missing Times New Roman bitmaps.

This is a good old fashioned Apple app; it has the feeling of ClarisWorks 5 and RagTime 5, only that FrameMaker is much more powerful. The interface shows many traces of black and white FrameMaker 3 and 4. Very nice and old fashioned: FrameMaker works with the Claris XTND system. Beware though, the installer installs outdated Claris MacWrite 5.0 translator 1.0v3 from 1991, whereas some apps already install v1.0v5 from 1992... FrameMaker installer overwrites thetranslator if you have installed it.

Compared to InDesign: FrameMaker does not seem to offer the creative freedom of InDesign. It's more of an efficient productivity tool. It feels like New York City: Powerful, fast, somewhat old fashioned, sometimes rigid, and quite quirky. But it seems to be very stable, and compared to newer Adobe apps it does not eat too much RAM.

One thing I haven't found out yet: The installer installs ARMLib 2.8.2.34 and overwrites what is in the sytem folder. I do not know whether this is the newest version of ARMLib. InDesign 2.0.2 installs the newest version of ARMLib and needs it (if you use it) for without InDesign crashes even more. So beware if you have InDesign 2.02 installed: Before installing FrameMaker check whether InDesign installed a newer version of ARMLib than 2.8.2.34; if yes, safe the ARMLib installed by InDesign 2.0.2 to the desktop before installing FrameMaker.

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by bertyboy - 2010, December 16 - 9:28am

I've since zapped those wayward OS X files and converted this DL to a Toast .iso, burned, installed and archived, thank you very much.

Jeez, I do exactly the same, but I've only done the first step so far, I used to think I was pretty efficient at this. I also add it to a FM database of downloads.

If anyone wants to test it then add the link to the app description. It would also be handy if you could flesh out the System Requirements.

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 16 - 9:03am

@bertyboy: yep already noted the last time these were modified was back in 2006, logically unlikely to be yours Smile

I've since zapped those wayward OS X files and converted this DL to a Toast .iso, burned, installed and archived, thank you very much.

I think your link should be up in the main spot, instead of the .sitx link. Cheers.

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by bertyboy - 2010, December 16 - 7:16am

The file looks good... tho' there was a little bit of someone's host Mac OS left behind...
Hidden directories:
.Spotlight-V100 (and its files .store.db & store.db)
Ajustes de volumen (possibly previous .sitx packer)
TheFindByContentFolder
TheVolumeSettingsFolder (+files: DesktopPrinters DB & OpenFolderList DF)
+ hidden files:
Desktop DB
Desktop DF

Most of these would appear to come from a root level directory. Not mine,I didn't even open the folder until after it had been copied back to the G5 and re-compressed. I reckon it's from that most basic of user mistakes - the unlocked mounted disc image, maybe because this is one they've put together themselves rather than being original media.

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 16 - 2:23am

The file looks good... tho' there was a little bit of someone's host Mac OS left behind...
Hidden directories: .Spotlight-V100 (and its files .store.db & store.db) etc; etc;

Last modified in 2006... Looks like all leftovers from the original .sitx packaging.

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 16 - 1:58am
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Way to go BertyBoy!

I have it on a Mac formatted USB stick, ready to try out tonight. It took MINUTES on a G4 1.25GHz eMac to decompress that file -- sigh

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 16 - 1:27am

@bertyboy came to the rescue:

Downloaded from the external link, uncompressed with Stuffit 2011 (v15) on my Mac Pro (took about 4 seconds) and copied back to my dual G5 and compressed again with Stuffit v5.5.

Many thanks bertyboy. Stuffit 5.5, even my old Macs likes this one - Took about 30 secs to uncompress on my G4 533DP-DA, so a little bit slower than your Mac Pro Laughing out loud

So glad not having to deal with incompatible (to Mac OS 9.x and earlier) .sitx files. This should be used in preference to the .sitx links.

The file looks good... tho' there was a little bit of someone's host Mac OS left behind...
Hidden directories:
.Spotlight-V100 (and its files .store.db & store.db)
Ajustes de volumen (possibly previous .sitx packer)
TheFindByContentFolder
TheVolumeSettingsFolder (+files: DesktopPrinters DB & OpenFolderList DF)
+ hidden files:
Desktop DB
Desktop DF

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by Protocol 7 - 2010, December 15 - 10:55pm

so for all that inconvenience of using the "latest" version to Stuff it, it saved 1.1MB, or 0.32%, space. Grrr.

Agreed. I don't know what the logic was behind sitx. Thankfully it didn't take off.

by xy - 2010, December 15 - 7:09pm

He came, saw, and triumphed. Thanks bertyboy!

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by bertyboy - 2010, December 15 - 5:30pm

Downloaded from the external link, uncompressed with Stuffit 2011 (v15) on my Mac Pro (took about 4 seconds) and copied back to my dual G5 and compressed again with Stuffit v5.5.

It uncompresses to a folder containing only the installer and some docs.

Stuffit v5.5 re-compresses it to an archive of 340MB exactly. The original Stuffit 2010 archive was 338.9 MB, so for all that inconvenience of using the "latest" version to Stuff it, it saved 1.1MB, or 0.32%, space. Grrr.
Uploading to MedaUpload now. I'll post a link when done.

by xy - 2010, December 15 - 3:37pm

This Stuffit stuff is quite confusing:

Is v14.0.1 actually Stuffit Expander 2010 or 2009? Or is v14.0.1 (Build 116) Stuffit Expander 2009, whereas higher versions of Stuffit Expander 14 are Stuffit Expander 2010?

I am asking, because, Mike TomTom, the link I provided allegedly downloads Stuffit Expander 13.03 which is (also?) supposed to be Stuffit Expander 2009. If that is the case, and if macmeister's version 14.0.1 (Build 116) is Stuffit Expander 2009, too, than macmeisters Stuffit version might be the last one for Mac OS 10.4.

This website:
http://superuser.com/questions/219425/stuffit-expander-free-on-mac-os-10...
confirms that v14 is the last version for Mac OS 10.4.11 but says it's Stuffit Expander 2010, for which it provides download link.

This website:
http://www.clubic.com/telecharger-fiche19092-stuffit-expander-2010.html
confirms this with download links.

Other websites assert that Stuffit Expander 2010 needs Mac OS 10.5.

Information on the web about all this is not clear to me.

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 15 - 11:48am

@xy:

Thanks for the link to the final (for PPC Mac) Stuffit Expander. I have DL'd it, but am running a Mac OS 9.2.2 box at the moment so will try it out later. No mean feat DL'ing that Stuffit using WaMcom Mozilla either Smile

Its the same version that themacmeister said that he was able to extract the FrameMaker .sitx archive from, so if anything, this should work.

You're not wrong about the speed at which Mac OS software is becoming abandonware... There seemed to be a lot more backwards compatibility in the pre OS X days. Now it seems to be all hell-bent-future driven. Pluses and minuses eh Wink

As long as there is Rossetta there is a chance for earlier PPC Mac OS X apps to keep working, but not for too much longer I would think.

by xy - 2010, December 15 - 11:09am

Thanks Mike TomTom, that's good news. There might be another problem: Stuffit Expander 2010 and 2011 seem to only run on Mac OS 10.5 upwards. It would be interesting to know whether Stuffit Expander 2009 (v13.03) for Mac OS 10.4 also can do the job. However, this older version of Stuffit seems to be almost lost in the web for downloads. However, I found one of the last download links:
http://freiland.blog.de/2009/06/08/stuffit-expander-13-0-3-mac-6265504/
(Website needs a while to open up, but it does open up eventually. It's a German website, but the download is the English version; just push "download").
It looks like even apps for Mac OS 10.4 seem to become abandonware quicky!

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 15 - 11:04am

@xy: its possible that the archive you posted up is OK - see themacmeister's last post. It does look like you need a pretty new copy of Stuffit Expander to extract it tho' - even newer than Stuffit 8 or 9 running on Mac OS X (for a program that needs to run on a Classic Mac OS and preferably native too) Sad well either that or I bozoed my own DL Puzzled

@themacmeister: Thanks for your efforts. It looks as tho' this archive requires a much newer Stuffit Expander than what I have even tho' my Stuffit usually doesn't have a problem with .sitx until now Sad

Erm... Classic mode on 10.5.8 on your eMac? Don't you mean Tiger (10.4.x) on your eMac? 10.5.x AFAIK doesn't have Classic support...

Anyway, I think I'll wait for someone (somewhere) to re-package this into a more Mac OS 8 - 9 friendly format Wink

by xy - 2010, December 15 - 10:27am

Please tell me whether the archive I uploaded here is okay. I downloaded it on a stick (FAT 32) on a Windows machine with IE 8. To make sure the stick was okay I deleted the entire stick shortly before the download so that it was fresh in a way. The only thing I did with the archive was to try to expand it with Stuffit Expander as well as Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3. Otherwise the archive remained untouched. I hope my attempt to open the archive with version 7.0.3 of Stuffit did not corrupt the archive.

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 15 - 10:13am

Sorry MikeTomTom, I got mine the same way you got yours. I will test it tonight on the eMac, running 10.5.8 and Stuffit Expander 2009.

EDIT: I used Stuffit Expander 14.0.1 (Build 116) which is from StuffitExpander2009-156en.dmg

Hope that helps... (PS. the last file takes FOREVER to decompress -- it all looks perfectly complete!). I would have installed it, but there are some elements that don't support classic mode on 10.5.8 (although it looks like the main installer does).

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by MikeTomTom - 2010, December 15 - 5:52am

@themacmeister: I'd be interested in your results. You got your copy from furk.net? I DL'd the one xy put up here at the Garden (using the edit trick, don't know if its still available)... Anyway, that one refuses to decompress using Stuffit Expander 8.x on OS X PPC Mac - Stuffit gets errors with it Sad

If yours does decompress OK then I might consider trying to get it from furk.net too, until hearing from you, I'll wait. Thanks.

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 15 - 1:41am
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Goto the file, haven't decompressed it yet, but will shortly. Many thanks again! Great (and rare) addition to the site!

by xy - 2010, December 14 - 11:04am

Added some links.

by xy - 2010, December 14 - 10:56am

That's what I thought: Just a frew slots for free download, but a download time of about 1 h 45 min - and many people trying to download at the same time. Anyway, yeah, thanks Furk Anonymus!

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by themacmeister - 2010, December 14 - 2:40am

Still cannot download it -- used IE, Firefox and Chome - no go!

Sad

EDIT: Getting it now, thanks whoever was responsible for this!