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Blue Box for Rhapsody

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Blue_Box_For_Rhapsody.sit (32.81 MB)
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[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
Rhapsody_BlueBOX_CD.toast_.sit (28.53 MB)
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[www].se [ftp].se [mirror].us
BlueBox.tar_.zip (25.70 MB)
Emulation
Guides on emulating older applications

Blue Box was the Mac OS emulation environment that came with Rhapsody DR2 and also the first implementations of Mac OS X Server 1.0 and 1.2. Blue Box allowed people to run Mac OS Classic software along with the software for Rhapsody and OS X Server. Blue Box would later evolve into the Classic Environment in the final release of OS X.

Enjoy!

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Here's another copy. This is of the 1.0 Developer release (Grail2A) (the upload above is 1.0f2). The CD image uses the Rhapsody UFS format and is only readable under Rhapsody PPC so I've also tar-ed the contents for anyone who wants to see what was inside.

BlueBox 1.0f2 = Blue Box For Rhapsody.sit
BlueBox 1.0 CD = Rhapsody BlueBOX CD.toast.sit
BlueBox 1.0 CD contents = BlueBox.tar.zip

Compatibility
Architecture: PPC

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Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2012, February 17 - 12:31am

That was me, but unfortunately I don't have a running Rhapsody system to re-do a tar file. Hopefully someone has a copy lying around and can re-up it.

InkBlot's picture
by InkBlot - 2012, February 16 - 11:30pm

I am not sure who posted the tar'ed files, but could that person please repost it? I would love to have a look at the files. Or, if there is a way to mount any of the Rhapsody disk images on a Mac, I would like to know how to do it (MacFUSE, maybe?).

Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2011, February 7 - 1:37am

Thanks Mike. Maybe the screen res was the problem (as the filesizes were much the same as your jpegs).

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2011, February 7 - 1:28am

@Protocol 7: perhaps the screenshots were too large? I shrunk the two from your last post's links (re-saved as jpeg) and was able to put them up here without error. They are still viewable at the smaller size. Great screenshots too, BTW.

Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2011, February 6 - 3:39pm

I installed DR2 and took a screenshot inside it's Blue Box fine. It must be some issue with DR1. Here it is (I still can't upload because of this "http error 0 /filefield/ahah/app/field_screenshot/1" voodoo).

Apart from the version numbers it looks the same. In Blue Box 1.0 the Mac OS version is 8.0 versus 8.1 in Blue Box 2.0. Also in 2.0 the app menu on the right hand side allows you to switch back to Rhapsody but I couldn't take a screenshot with that pulled down. But I did take a screenshot of it Rhapsody-side.

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2011, February 6 - 7:19am

You may find scrot or scrot.app (a command line screenshot utility).

This may also be of great interest for anyone coding for Cocoa:

http://io.debian.net/~tar/gnustep/

I have installed and used this before (on x86), and it is ROCK SOLID. pity there is precious little software for it... Sad

There is a PowerPC ISO available for LiveCD/USB!

Free Open Source programming for Mac OS X - read this -> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=665129&seqNum=1&rl=1

Smile

Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2011, February 5 - 4:20pm

Another mystery solved. Good to know!

Still can't add more screenshots so I'll just put them here.

First Launch
Copying startup image
Holding down shift when launching gets you this dialog

I'll add a screenshot from inside Blue Box when i figure out how to take one (the usual Mac OS method gets a corrupt image).

Also, the installation instructions are a little vague. When you decompress the files you place MacOS.app into NextApps and the MacOS folder into NextLibrary.

by unixphreak - 2011, February 5 - 4:39am

MTT,

You are correct:

PPC740 (G3 'Arthur', 2x32KB L1, 0.29µm, 200-266MHz)
PPC740 (G3 'Arthur', 2x32KB L1, 0.22µm, 300-400MHz) http://www.plasma-online.de/index.html?content=http%3A//www.plasma-onlin...

The PowerPC 740 and 750 (codename Arthur)[1] were introduced in late 1997 as an evolutionary replacement for the PowerPC 603e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_7xx#PowerPC_740.2F750

For the interested.

Too bad this never ran on a true CHRP platform.

MikeTomTom's picture
by MikeTomTom - 2011, February 5 - 3:36am

Code name for a PPC CPU?
PowerPC 740: Arthur

Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2011, February 5 - 3:09am

No idea. Maybe someone can enlighten us.

I've added a screenshot of the about box. Have a couple of others of it starting up but the site won't let me add them for some random reason. I'll try again tomorrow.

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2011, February 5 - 1:58am

That is a strange info dialog. I know what CHRP is, I now know what Blue Box is, but what on earth is ARTHUR?

Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2011, February 5 - 1:06am

No that's the Blue Box copy of Mac OS 8 running in Sheepshaver. You can extract the two disk images from macos_lib.tar.gz and boot them just fine (though the Blue Box enabler won't load as it isn't needed).

ken147's picture
by ken147 - 2011, February 5 - 12:57am

Protocol 7 - is that running in Rhapsody?

Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2011, February 5 - 12:49am

This is actually an interesting version as it appears to be a prerelease Blue Box build. The CD image I have contains 1.0. This is 1.0f2. It doesn't have an installer package and must be installed manually.

The really interesting part is the Applications.img file. This is missing in the release version and has some commercial apps (registered to "Blue Box Test") including FileMaker Pro 3 and ClarisWorks 4. Excel 5 is there too (registered to MAE) but is missing necessary files and won't launch as a result. And then there's this.

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2011, February 4 - 10:48pm

It was not my intention to be misleading, just to make the file available here at the Garden. I have never ever used Rhapsody, BlueBox, YellowBox, RedBox or any other coloured Box. I have no idea what they are or how they work, and was a PPC fanboy, especially the G4 -- and had no interest in Apple moving to Intel.

If you follow any of my other uploads, you will know that I supply precious little information, but this being a wiki, new information and descriptions are added fairly quickly. There are many, many posts here where the description, and even the upload have been updated by others, almost always for the better.

I just lay it out, for y'all to play it out!

cheers...

by unixphreak - 2011, February 4 - 10:30pm

Ken,

I research my info before I post! I don't like to mislead people whether intentional or not. I provide the best information I know from this research that I can find. I know that all the info I posted was not hard to find, if you do a search for Rhapsody DR2 or Rhapsody OS just a you can find a bunch of information and not just speculation on the subject even the website I posted.

So if you are to lazy to post good information then why post it at all? If you don't know ask and then someone can give you the info or point you in the right direction and then all will be good. The internet just gives people the way to be inherently lazy.

This is not personal, so sorry macmiester, but how do you like to have misinformation readily available to anyone including yourself? We can all do our part to help make the WWW better than what our closets looked like back in high school.

Protocol 7's picture
by Protocol 7 - 2011, February 4 - 4:42pm

As unixphreak pointed out this is for DR1. Blue Box wasn't ready when Apple shipped DR1 so they put it out afterwards. DR2 has it on the CD.

iig's picture
by iig - 2011, February 4 - 3:53pm
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@themacmeister, Thanks for the upload! Where did you find this Gem?

by xy - 2011, February 4 - 2:44pm

Actually, on Wikipedia there is a lot of insulting going on, especially in the discussion forums; also, there are the registered Wikipedia 'overseers' who often have no clue and sometimes are plain stupid but think they have the right to delete and add as they like.

However, there is a difference between being insulting and loosing patience. Some of us work under high pressure besides contributing to MacGarden. So it might happen that someone looses his or her temper. This is what happened to unixphreak. I do not see that he insulted anyone. His tone was harsh, okay, but not insulting.

ken147's picture
by ken147 - 2011, February 4 - 1:57pm

You know this isn’t a big company where if you make a mistake it curtains for you. This is a Wiki. If you are on wikipedia and you see a mistake in an entry do you freak out and start insulting them like you did here? I sure hope not. How would you like it if I saw information that YOU posted and it was wrong and I chewed you out in public for it? You know there is such a thing call constructive criticism.

by unixphreak - 2011, February 4 - 11:25am

If people would put a little effort into the things they do you would have a better product for others to learn from, right?

Just because someone feels bad that they did a bad job at what they did does not excuse them from the bad job.

Be responsible and research before posting. You only make more more and hassle for most other people and confusion for the rest.

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2011, February 4 - 5:52am

Thanks very much Ken, made me feel a bit better... I also believe that installation instructions are included in the archive (it is simply copying files to existing folders). There are instructions still available on the internet...

ken147's picture
by ken147 - 2011, February 4 - 12:22am

written above: "Please read and research and then ask an experienced person before posting erroneous information on the internet. No wonder there is so much B.S. floating around!!!!!!!!!!"

Just because someone post incorrect information doesn't mean you have to be rude about it!!!!!!! just change it and post relevant information, and don't scream at the person that contributed. I'm editing the above information now.

themacmeister's picture
by themacmeister - 2011, January 20 - 7:47am

Thanks for the update unixphreak, I am just putting it out there, Rhapsody DR1/DR2 is on this site elsewhere... I think.

by unixphreak - 2011, January 20 - 5:20am

Ok, here is someone else that is posting stuff that dose not research what they have!!!!!
There is plenty of software that will run in the Blue Box. You just have to have a way to run the Blue Box. Now how would someone know how to run the Blue Box? Does it run on Mac OS? Is it Mac OS?
Well it's both sort of......

First you have to have DR1 and then you have to have apps that work with OS 8 or earlier.
That should be enough for those adventurous types to get it going.
The hardware and install technique is for you to find and figure out.
Cannot give away all tue answers can I?